I am on the Board of an organisation that is not religious based or a Church organisation giving opportunity and life skills to mildly intellectually handicapped young people. Some on the Board do not attend a Church some attend different Churches and all do not receive a cent for our time. Though we have 8 full time staff and 30 casual paid staff.

The idea that church members coorporate projects are tax exempt is a red herring, as members pay tax on their earnings and use some of their earnings to cooperatively assist people struggling in life, similarly with Rotary or Lions etc.

I have yet to jump down your throat Becca.

Becca: “…there is nothing wrong with me Jewely for quoting the title of this thread and calling it a contradiction, perhaps you forget what the forum is for?”

You actually said, and I quote:

“The Thread is on How a man can call himself a 'Proud Australian Muslim"..a contradictory in terms.”

The threads title is ‘Proud to be an Australian Muslim’ – I didn’t spot “How a man can call himself…”

You don’t like Muslims; I get it loud and clear. I was just wondering what was wrong with you – I’d like to know if you’ve met them all or what made you dislike over a billion and a half people in the world or did you read something in the news and then apply it to every Muslim there ever was and ever will be?

You do however accuse me of judging people. I don’t judge Christians by the way; I judge certain Australian Christian NGO’s and their cohorts poorly, and worse.

Telling me how many NGO’s are in Australia doesn’t actually prove I was wrong about anything… ever… in my whole life.

Jewely, again with the accusations. There is no issue here for any human being coming to our country legally. There is no issue with them believing what they want. But seriously, do you have any idea of what you are defending? Sorry I added to the thread line - I do believe I added colons to "Proud Australian Muslim" and that is what he called himself isnt it? Or did I read the Article wrong? Are you blind to what they are doing to anyone not just Christians?
Now to Your quotes on the Church"They profit from helping children through charging excessive amounts – wouldn’t go assuming it is all Christian employees either cause they’ll take anyone they can generally to then pass the expenses on to the tax payer. Hope you don’t really have an image of little poor nuns and monks going about helping the needy after giving all their worldly possessions to the church. Its big business baby and only business now", "it is the Christian ones that lobby for the contracts most successfully that is advantageous to their non-christian buddies. Leaches on leaches";"that means WE ALL give generously in Australia through what is paid in taxes then distributed about to whoever gets the public contracts";"Them making money doesn’t bother me but the services are built on failing some of the most vulnerable members of our society and discrimination becomes legally acceptable when a church carries out a public service here".
In fact, you didn't read the link did you, it is the statistics of how many NGO's are in Oz,not all Religious and only a portion receive tax breaks. Also, Christians pay their taxes too and THEN they give their $ then they give their time/ food/ services.
I do think Muslims of the Islamic faith could not assimilate into the Australian cultural attitude - is that still the wrong wording for you?(How does one fail the vulnerable members of society if they didnt make them that way but gave to them when they asked..does centre link just give to you if you ask?)

Becca:”do you have any idea of what you are defending?”

Yep. I’d defend Christians the same if someone tried to say they are ALL bad too.

Becca:“Are you blind to what they are doing to anyone not just Christians?”

What some are doing you mean. Nope but Christians wanted laws in place to benefit religion and now they will find any religion can benefit. Aren’t they silly duffers.

Becca:“In fact, you didn't read the link did you, it is the statistics of how many NGO's are in Oz,”

I never said it was only Church NGO’s. So if I go stare at how many businesses are in Australia it will somehow prove all the church NGO’s being funded huge amounts aren’t failing who they are paid to protect? I doubt they signed anything saying they will protect anyone – that would be dumb. I still don’t get what point you are trying to make.

Becca:” I do think Muslims of the Islamic faith could not assimilate into the Australian cultural attitude - is that still the wrong wording for you?”

Go ask the families of Muslims that have been here since the early 1900’s and ask them how they like your wording.

Becca:”(How does one fail the vulnerable members of society if they didnt make them that way but gave to them when they asked..does centre link just give to you if you ask?)”

I don’t know how centrelink operates or how that makes sense. But you fail a vulnerable person by not keeping them safe after you have been paid handsomely to do so and then by profiting from furthering their misery, as I watch Church NGO’s do every day. They won’t get in trouble later though as it is govt departments that are the lead agency. More tax payer money to compensate for bad service.

Becca:”Also, Christians pay their taxes too and THEN they give their $ then they give their time/ food/ services.”

Maybe they should ask where the money goes. Non-Christians do all the same stuff just for different reasons Becca.

Mr MO
please answer the following:
1. under islam, when is it permissable to stone a woman to death?
2. under islam, what would be appropriate punishment for your teenage daughter if she wanted to be a Christian?

Your answers will tell you (and us) why you cant be an Australian and a muslim at the same time.