JamesH,
I would agree with that.

I have also noticed that feminists or their supporters will rarely answer questions or attempt to find solutions to problems.

They are trained to think of “men” as being responsible for any problem, and also trained to call someone a misogynist if they disagree with their bigoted philosophies.

No wonder few private companies will employ a feminist.

“It would then appear then that feminists want men who only agree with them and submit to their authority."

Oh – maybe I am a feminist then. :P

I think it’s mostly Vanna James, he is very insulting to women in general and says the weirdest things, it becomes way too tempting to insult him right back. Actually I generally don’t wait for him to get in first anymore.

I will do my best to behave better in future.

It occurs to me that the word feminist and the bastardisation of it with “femnazi” etc is also used frequently when a male disagrees with any female views. It would also seem to be used to try and stop debate and exploration of alternative ideas or arguments that do not agree with much male dogma here.

Wonder if we can have an amnesty of gender specific insults in the very next thread that comes up?

Graham might police it. We could have [amnesty non-participant]. If it was a pink or blue font and we could keep score it would be even better.

Vanna:”They are trained to think of “men” as being responsible for any problem…”

Guess I will stick to hand signals at the screen instead.

JamesH,

vanna has rarely (if ever) uttered a positive word about women - although he usually attempts to make a faux distinction in his antipathy by specifically targeting "feminists" and "mothers".

His commentary is one long repetitive denigration of womanhood. It would be difficult to find a more enthusiastic proponent of misogynistic sentiment.

vanna,

"...are also trained to call someone a misogynist if they disagree with their bigoted philosophies."

Well, yes, I refer to you as a misogynist since you fit the definition and because I disagree with you bigoted philosophies.

Poirot and Pelican, I like your style :)
Even when under unprovoked attack from rampant, chest beating, knuckle-dragging, 'chauvinazi's', you never fail to bring a smile to my face!

Vanna, I have also noticed that misogynists or their supporters will rarely answer questions or attempt to find solutions to problems.
They are trained to think of women as being responsible for any problem, and also trained to call someone a 'feminazi' if they disagree with their bigoted philosophies.

Many girls these days are taking science-based courses in schools and universities, so I don't know what your point actually is?

I know this because a good friend of my daughter is studying Forensic Science at Uni, and she told me that 80% of her class were female.
She also said there were many females in other science-based courses at her Uni. I don't know about other universities personally, but I can't see why they would be any different.

Maybe this fact frightens you?

It shouldn't, because I am happy that the science world will be in good hands, if the other girls are of the same caliber as my daughter's friend.

Good on you gals (sorry, Ladies), give em heaps.

Came back in spite of myself.

I have had a lucid moment, in which I realised how many wonderfully accomplished females I have seen on TV (my favourite hobby - the TV, not perusing wistfully) - scientists, researchers, police Inspectors, fighter pilots, chopper pilots, Governors and Governors-General, Astronauts, Doctors, Lawyers, Nurses, PHD's (particularly in the environmental sciences - a difficult and demanding and poorly appreciated field), astronomers, nuclear physicists, a few Premiers, Officers in the Armed Services, etc, etc, and the list goes on - not to mention commentators, reporters, artists, dancers, movie stars, spokespersons, CEO's, Directors, analysts, novelists, ...

And all those quiet achievers who are so great to be around.

More power to em; and leaves some of the really tough cerebral jobs to the boys, like the ARL, "boat races", bragging and being asses.

Though it's great that the female of the species has proven beyond doubt to be at least equally capable in virtually every major field of human endeavour (given half a chance) - and to be distinctly superior in some - I find it a little sad that this accomplishment seems to have coincided with something of a breakdown in attitudes towards marital or partnership loyalty and perseverance. We seem quite a bit more laissez faire about such things these days.

Maybe it's unrelated, and I certainly don't mean toughing-out an abusive or neglectful relationship, but it does seem that since the dawning of "free love" a few important cultural mores seem to have gone by the wayside. Of course, greater freedom in education and career opportunities may not have contributed at all to this fraying of cultural cohesion, but I just have to wonder. Maybe I'm just an ol' stick in the mud, but I think some things were worth keeping. Maybe I need "enlightening", or maybe I should just curl up and go away.

Here's hoping for an ever brighter future, but I can't help feeling that some "freedoms", if unfettered, may have a nasty sting in the tail.

No one has yet come up with any suggestions about how to interest girls in science, apart from basing science courses around "online shopping and cosmetic surgery"

Typical.

And its not just girls who are not interested, its also many of the teachers who are not interested.

Therein seems to be the main cause of the problem