LEGO,

White Western people "are" warmongers who run around stealing other people's resources.

All human beings are belligerent when it serves their purposes to be so.
Paradoxically, however, our species is also capable of great acts of amity and reverence.

As for gorillas killing the offspring of their defeated rivals and the warring nature of chimpanzees - yes, all beings of simian nature are tribal - what is your point?

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Cutting out all tax-concessions and grants to those hypocrites who claim holiness by holding religious or charitable banners and than we can talk sensibly.

So far I have never seen a religion but I have seen many scoundrels who make a fat living out of religions and charitable joints

You have a very good point there, Philo.

>>All the claims against Christ posted here are done in ignorance; as Christ never taught or practised of the things many accuse... Bad behaviour is not a recent event and a culture that is called Christian does not mean all follow the teachings and behaviour of Christ<<

That does however bring into sharp relief, the claim that his teachings had a beneficial effect on society. There must be very few, I suspect, who could equate their personal behaviour to that of Christ. After all, we all sin, do we not?

If the claim was "is Sin really the source of Oz values", I think it would, on this basis alone, be much closer to the truth. As you yourself point out, Christians don't "all follow the teachings and behaviour of Christ".

So how could their religion, if they don't actually adhere to it, have any special impact on our collective "values"?

@The Blue Cross

You seem to be referring to pre-tribulation pre-millenialist eschatology (as exemplified in the 'Left Behind' series), but while many Baptists no doubt hold to that, not all do, and it's actually more prevalent in pentecostal circles - and in any case, I've never come across a Baptist statement of beliefs or confession etc that specifies that one must hold such an eschatological view. Further, even within the hard-core 'left-behinders' I've never seen the number 100k mentioned. I may have been brought up in a baptist church, but I don't hold to that eschatology - I'm not defending it, but rather puzzled at your representation of it. But then again, from the tone of your posts, I'm not so sure that accuracy is as important as rhetoric. And as you say, it's not the point (though you did bring it up).

Runner, Philo, Jim Wallace and your mates, what went wrong in your life to have such an extreme antisocial outlook on life.
There is so much venom in your postings towards others,that are not of the extreme religous belief as yourselves,can only indicate that you have issues in your lives that you carry; and it would appear you are feared to address and rid yourselves of them.
Hitler tried to inpose his beliefs on others, and he ended up very, very unhappy!!