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Are Christians really the source of Oz values? : Comments

By Leslie Cannold, published 21/4/2011

As the Ad Hoc Interfaith Committee explains, the main tolerance many Christians thought deserved legal protection was their

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For the confused - I am a follower of Christ who taught love your enemy, do goo to those who hate you, to his disciples he said, "put away your weapons, my kingdom is not of "the nationalist systems" of this world". I am not a part with nationalist Israel, which is what the OT is about - I follow Christ and the new Covenant.
Posted by Philo, Sunday, 1 May 2011 5:46:53 PM
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your correct philo
if only we would all try to give good
even to those who hate us....[oh well]

anyhow i watched a documentry on sbs last night
it showed what i will presume to be a royal navey flag
[a white flag..with the red horisontal cross..and the britsh flag in its top corner..nearest the pole]

ie much like nz flag
or the ozzie flag
but white[with cross]
where ours is blue[with white stars]

thing is that remided me we are the same as a navy[in status..privledges/obligation..[values]

the show actually said as much
seems..that the brits elites..decided in the late 18 th century
to treat briton...as-IF a ship..

[we have much the same basis to our laws

the govt is like a ships captain at sea
telling us shanghied into their system...what to do and when to jump

[where we can smoke..
when we can pay tax..
when we can go to war to die]

think of it...in court you stand in the dock
you need a leave pass to pass a port..[a passport]

we are accorded the standing of landed goods
[we have a berthing certification..[birth-certificate]
we need licence[permissions]...to do that otherwise unlawfull

its funny how the dots join
see the prince at his wed-ding
dressed in what..an army uniform
a redcoat uniform..

not only is he the future commander in chief
and the armed forces sworn to protect the crown
[ie the royal; estates..crown land..crown law]

he will soon be the pope of the anglican/church

how much more evidence do we need
we got xtian 'values...but under the heel of armed force's

thing is next year...2012
things change..this is the year
when the christ returns to lord it over us
read the announcement..[previous posts..

and the last]
that will be the first
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4434&page=0

the demcratic christ elect*

instead of the 'house of'..
the sainted..'lords'..a leaping
leaping all over traditional xtian values
Posted by one under god, Monday, 2 May 2011 7:25:26 AM
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UOG,
That red cross on a white background is the cross of St George, as the union Jack represents the crosses of St Patrick - Ireland, St Andrew - Scotland and St George - England. The three form the union of the three original countries.
Posted by Philo, Monday, 2 May 2011 7:58:10 PM
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thanks for that philo
[its just i thought the lines
on the brit flag represented their joinder]

the one that was in the top corner
this should show the flag i saw
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.britishflag.us/downloads/print/uk-royal-navy1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.britishflag.us/united-kingdom-royal-navy.htm&h=614&w=1024&sz=84&tbnid=YWkR6BG1aSAJFM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=150&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dgreat%2Bbritain%2Bnaval%2Bflags%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=great+britain+naval+flags&usg=__I5U7q5HFKHR5-ah4-t9vXSdqe1k=&sa=X&ei=-xK_TdqCAY-yuAPXsNm9BQ&ved=0CDoQ9QEwBQ

a you can see
take away the red cross
make the white blue...sew in some white stars
and there you got the 'flag' of a navel colonisation..

[a colony..under british/navy flag]
just like nz
just like arround 10 others that have the same blue tie-job
with the brit union flag..on the royal navy ensin
thus under navy law..

[admiralty law..the law of trade]
the values we got
are the values of a niave shanghied navvie
wearing his royal dickey arround his neck

made to walk the plank
at the captains..[of industries]..leisure
beg for licence
beg for leave
opresent your berthing certification

we emerged form the waters[our mothers waters]
landed...got issued with a berthing certification
its not xtian..[xtians walk upon the waters..not sail upon the seas]

but how do we tell people their all in the navy
all army brats

[why ya think govt can con-ascripts us at will?]
and charges us with deneying court 'orders'
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 6:34:31 AM
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Just to complete the picture, one under god, the flag you linked to is the White Ensign. It is the flag of the Royal Navy

The Blue ensign is (surprise) blue, without the cross, i.e. just with the Union flag in the top corner, and is flown when a seagoing vessel is under the command of a master of the rank of Lieutenant RN, or above, of the Royal Naval Reserves. So you might find a Blue Ensign flown by yachties, as well as merchant navy ships. But never the Royal Navy.

This is the one that has the stars added to it to make the Australian (and NZ) flag, not the White Ensign.

The Red Ensign - the Red Duster - is like the Blue Ensign (only red, of course) and is flown on all other British vessels, and as a courtesy flag by visiting ships.
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:31:27 PM
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thanks pericules..for your wisdoms

""This is the one
that has the stars added to it
to make the Australian (and NZ) flag""

""and is flown when a seagoing vessel
is under the command of a master of the rank
of Lieutenant RN,..*or above,""

so the gg
who commands the armed forces
should have authority to fly it..thus his
or her COMMISION would make interesting reading to see if

he/she...is""of the Royal Naval Reserves.""
how many female gov generals were woman...

by what authority did woman
get the right to join the navy..[the australia 'act'?]

anyhow curious..and curiouser

""So you might find a Blue Ensign flown by yachties,""
such as charles uncle?

""as well as merchant navy ships""
again the merchant thing.

""But never the Royal Navy...""

any citations?
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 1:14:07 PM
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