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Israel should be given the South African treatment : Comments

By Antony Loewenstein and Moammar Mashni, published 1/3/2011

Initiatives by Sydney city councils to run a BDS campaign against Israel should be supported.

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One should have known that an article written jointly be a Jew and a Palestinian as today would attract comments from the army of sayanims out there doing the bidding of the Israeli terrorists. As friends of our disgraced PM, trying to bring this country to the stage that the US has now reached, subservient to Zionism in the Congress, the Senate and with Obama and his disciples.

Not here, thanks PM.

One is motivated to quote the words of that murderer Ariel Sharon, from Shatila and Sabra massacre fame, when he said in an interview with Amoz Oz, Davar, December 17, 1982, after Sharon’s invasion and genocide of Lebanon in 1982......
“We might use Nuclear arms…Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us. … And I don’t mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a Nuremberg Trial and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as a war criminal. … “What you don’t understand is that the dirty work of Zionism is not finished yet, far from it.”

This is the Ariel Sharon philosophy that must be known by Ms Gillard as a Zionist supporter.....Remember that fact!...These are the people who push her buttons, possibly craft her own personal foreign policy, but certainly not for the citizens of Australia who want to see Palestinians saved from bondage and cruel, inhumane treatment.

‘Runner’ has said...” Imagine how quickly the land of Israel would be turned to wasteland again should others take over their territory”. Wasteland, says ‘Runner’?
That’s exactly what the Israelis have made Palestine.

Since Hitler, no other country has shown such contempt for a people as has Israel to the Palestinians since 1948. Even the Balkan cleansing doesn’t compare. Nothing compares except for the treatment they received at the hands of the Nazis.

As Sharon said, “the dirty work of Zionism is not finished, far from it.”

Not in Australia, Ms Gillard.
Posted by Rhys Stanley, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 1:42:30 PM
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“I am a black South African, and if I were to change the names, the description of what is happening in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank would be a description of what is happening in South Africa”

Wrong. The black South Africans were (and still are) a peaceful lot. They were unarmed and when they received control they treated the white population with forgiveness and compassion (even better than their Rhodesian counterparts). How can they possibly be compared with the Gazan lot of fully-armed fantaic Jihadists who, if given what they want, would slaughter all Israelis to the last woman and baby.

Nevertheless, one evil does not cancel another. The Arab/Muslim murderous intentions do not justify Israeli settlement.

In 1967, the Arab countries decided to get rid of Israel and throw its inhabitants to the sea. They failed and at that time Israel took over those cursed territories. Due to Arab ongoing attitudes, Israel has no choice but to hold onto the West-Bank (including East-Jerusalem) and Golan-Heights as military buffer zones, that is until the above attitudes change and it is safe to withdraw (fortunately Israel was since able to rid itself of the Sinai desert and of the Gaza strip).

While Israel is waiting (or at least should wait) for conditions to be safe for withdrawal, it has no right to settle civilians in those military buffer zones. Only the Israeli army has the right to patrol those areas and take whatever measures are necessary to protect Israel itself. Incidental damages to the local population (who now call themselves "Palestinians") should be minimized, but one must understand that sadly they cannot be eliminated completely and that the Arabs brought it on themselves by declaring war on Israel.

Sadly the UN resolution condemning the settlements did not pass. I hope the next one will. I do support BALANCED sanctions that are directed at the settlements and not at the general Israeli population.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 2:24:40 PM
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It's interesting to recall that when most of the world had imposed sanctions on the Apartheid regime, Israel continued to train the South African security forces and sell them armaments.

Maybe there is some similarity after all.

Then again, Britain sold Gadaffi the weapons he's now using against his own people. Business is business I suppose.
Posted by wobbles, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 3:10:05 PM
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"It's interesting to recall that when most of the world had imposed sanctions on the Apartheid regime, Israel continued to train the South African security forces and sell them armaments."

Yes, it is interesting, if not for a simple explanation - very few other countries were willing to be Israel's friends at the time because nobody wanted to be at loggerheads with the oil-producing Arab countries. The South-Africans were willing, so as the world's black sheep (even before 1967), Israel could not afford be too selective.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 3:19:45 PM
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It breaks my heart reading those comments about the unfair tribulations facing poor brave Israel , & the churlish opposition it is forced to endure .
Actually , that is an overstatement . In truth , I do not care a cracker more for Israel than it cares for me or anyone or anything other than itself ... ie absolutely nothing .
The solution to Israel's problem is not to treat it better because , as we have seen - give Israel an inch , & it will take a mile .
The solution to Israel's problem is to deliver it a request to improve its behavoiur , & support that request with threat or a promise ie give Israel a REASON to behave - because it certainly will not behave itself unless it has to .
Posted by Oz, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 1:49:02 PM
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Dear Oz,

Thank you, that's a very good point.

I see that you humble yourself, but in reality you care for Israel more than it cares for itself when you propose to do what it takes in order to bring it back to the straight-and-narrow. Israel really needs that good whack on its bottom, so thank you again on Israel's behalf.

Please be kind enough to have some similar care for the poor Palestinians as well, especially the Hamas of Gaza, since they also need plenty of help in arriving at the straight-and-narrow.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 2:07:51 PM
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