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Israel should be given the South African treatment : Comments

By Antony Loewenstein and Moammar Mashni, published 1/3/2011

Initiatives by Sydney city councils to run a BDS campaign against Israel should be supported.

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Dear Oz,

There is a world of difference between our indigenous people and the Palestinians.

A victim is a person who has not means of making a decision as to their conditions. No one is a victim who can make a choice. The Palestinians have the ball in their court ... and yet they make no decision as to self-determination, two-state solution, borders, etc. The Palestinians are not victims.

The world has, however, designated them as victims ... and Palestinians believe it ... along with a "learned helplessness". Despite billions of dollars poured into the Palesinian territory (having the density of a black hole), rather ironically, thousands of Palestinians daily seek employment in Israel (the "enemy") to secure an equitable wage and many benefits. As you would also read from the above reference sites, Palestinians seem to prefer Israeli administration over their own.

Falsely labelling the Palestinians as 'victims" has done them a terrible disservice. Until Palestinians reject the idea of victimhood, they are unlikely to be able to make regional decisions.
Posted by Danielle, Monday, 21 March 2011 10:34:45 AM
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Dear Danielle ,
To cure the unnecessary vagueness of my post last night , I should particularize it in case you wish to respond .
I oppose a BDS against the Palestinians & any other solution likely to damage its infrastructure .
Their infrastructure , weak to start with , has already been directly damaged by well known deliberate outside human intervention (like that of the Australian Aborigines).
I think that now , their additionally-dysfunctional infrastructure has become an increasing part of the overall problem.
Any solution tending to damage their infrastructure further would , not only fail , but would be counter productive .
Posted by Oz, Monday, 21 March 2011 11:22:48 AM
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Dear Danielle ,
Our posts overlapped . I'll try to post tonight .
Posted by Oz, Monday, 21 March 2011 11:26:20 AM
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Dear Danielle ,
You & I are not completely poles apart in opinion .
I agree that Australian Aboriginals are not synonymous with Palestinians. They share no individuality .
What they share is DYSFUNCTIONALITY , which needs to be effectively addressed if we are to hope for a workable Middle East solution .

"VICTIM"
The Middle East problem cannot be solved accordingly to which side succeeds in establishing itself as THE victim .
Power politics will decide the matter , like everything else , won't it?
Posted by Oz, Monday, 21 March 2011 10:01:59 PM
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Dear Oz,

I agree "victimhood" is not a good look for any territory.

I also agree that the Palestinian people are dysfunctional, but they have the means and resources within themselves to act responsibly.

Then ... they also have to cope with Hamas.
Posted by Danielle, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 2:03:47 PM
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Dear Danielle ,
You are right about that .
I very very much admire your young & vibrant spirit .
I don't think you have all the answers , but (damn) neither do I .
I hope you use your life well .
10 4
OZ
Posted by Oz, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 9:23:31 PM
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