Loudmouth,

I am back.

You and I are not unlike those who find themselves shot-at in many parts of the world.

We do not have the urgency of the poor. We can bite our time, and, at election, give our vote only to candidates with relevant skills, and proven administrative abilities and on condition that the Books are to be open for our checking at all times.

If no bank gives out money without securities, why should we give our vote on the never-never?

John Pilger dredges up a new conspiracy every month, and his analysis is laughable.

My own opinion is that he is off his meds.

Thanks for your cryptic comments, Skeptic :)

Another word that Pilger dare not speak is 'Impartiality': we may hear from him about Blair and Bush and many other western leaders as some sort of Ghaddafi lickspittles, but not of Mandela for being friendly to Ghaddafi. Fair enough that they all were friendly, it's called politics - I have no particular quarrel with any of them for that.

Meanwhile only Nicaragua, Cuba, Bolivia, Serbia and Venezuela, perhaps Argentina and Zimbabwe as well, are cosying up to Ghaddafi, so I look forward to hearing Pilger condemn them as well.

No ? Won't happen ? Thought not.

Meanwhile, this news item from al-Jazeera might set us right:

6:15am Hana Elgallal, a legal and human rights expert in Benghazi, said some in Libya will be disappointed that the UN did not impose a no-fly zone. "I'm one person who was hoping that we'd get that," she told Al Jazeera.

"We will not be able to move and help Tripoli because of the fear that he will use his planes. But whatever we get now we will look at it positively and consider it a victory and success.

"Hopefully things will escalate in our benefit soon to defuse the massacres in Tripoli."

I'm still waiting for a US flag to get either burned, or waved - but clearly, the fact that we see neither is probably evidence that this is not about the US, or the West - it's about freedom and democracy, a new day, in Libya and other Arab countries.

Joe

Loudmouth,Zimbabwe needed saving long ago.The atrocities there have far exceeded that of Libya.The only reason the West wants to save Libya now,is the oil.The same is true of East Timor.Aust did not want to know about the injustice there until the discovery of oil.

Stealing oil from poor countries will not make it cheaper at the bowser for us.We are now seeing a monopolising of energy around the planet for greater profits.The Global Corporates do not want competition.They have no empathy for the serfs who maintain this fragile umbrella called civilisation.

JD Rockefeller," Competition is a sin."

Arjay,

Get some sense, when the Libyan people set up a new government, do you think they won't need the revenue from oil to keep the economy afloat ? Do you think they won't want to re-establish contracts with consuming countries ? Do you think that, no matter what government is in power in any country, if they depend on oil from other countries now, they will not depend on oil from foreign countries into the future ?

Oil is a resource, something which generates revenue in producing countries. And oil is a vital component of economic life in consuming countries. No matter what government is in power, in either producing or consuming countries, that will still be the way things go.

Move on from this brainless 'it's all about oil, how terrible' argument. It's a lazy, easy argument. Currently, every country needs oil, and if a country has it, it needs to produce it. You haven't cracked some magic, secret formula, Arjay, like it's the secret to the universe.

Which is 42, by the way.

Arjay,

The WTC7 conspiracy theory is easily debunked.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/engineering/architecture/4278874