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Behind the Arab revolt is a word we dare not speak : Comments

By John Pilger, published 25/2/2011

Since 1945, the US has destroyed or subverted more than 50 governments, many of them democracies, and used mass murderers.

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This a must see.Ray McGovern gets arrested and bashed at Hillary Clinton's speech on freedom for Egyptians. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My29YT1T4R4

Pilger is from the left and I'm from the right.We have common ground and that is the right of individuals to have freedom and a mechanism of democracy for self determination.We live in a corporatised society that is stripping away basic rights and freedoms.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 25 February 2011 8:37:32 PM
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Arjay

Thanks for posting the video of the removal of the protestor at Hilary Clinton’s speech. I was curious to see it. The only trouble is the bit I actually wanted to see, that is, what the man actually did to make the security guards so nervous that they had to remove him wasn’t shown.

It was stated somewhere that he stood up and turned his back on Hilary, that may have been enough for the security guards to become suspicious, because it is unusual behaviour. Besides if a man stood up in a movie theatre and just stood there blocking the view of the people behind him, I think a security guard would remove him for being a nuisance too, so where’s the big deal.
Honestly, people make mountains out of molehills and see conspiracies and oppression where there is none.

If he didn’t want to be jumped on by the security people then all he had to do was act normally like everyone else at the event. Because of the threat of assassins they are trained to react to any behaviour out of the ordinary.
Obviously he either didn’t have the brains to realise this or he deliberately provoked it.
Posted by CHERFUL, Saturday, 26 February 2011 12:04:37 AM
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CHERFUL,they did not have to remove Ray McGovern in this fashion,nor was it necessary to beat him.He stood up and displayed his peace T shirt.Hillary was talking about the necessity if free speech with hollow words.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 26 February 2011 9:46:58 AM
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CHERYL
Don't be so naive and/or disingenuous.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Saturday, 26 February 2011 10:12:10 AM
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I have only one word for this article:

Prozac.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 26 February 2011 1:49:49 PM
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I'm not wanting to jump down the USA's back THAT much Loudmouth, and I am perfectly happy that the USA is sitting out of these conflicts (physically).

However it is a fair swipe that not at least promptly endorsing a democratic movement for fear of alienating their non-democratic regional allies, is rather lacking considering all the jumping up and down over the issue in the past and not now when it is probably the best time to start promoting it.

Although it doesn't really matter as far as Egypt is concerned (they're still seeming to be pretty serious about Democracy despite less than stellar public perception of America), the USA isn't doing itself or the rest of the region any favors by not endorsing the democracy concept as an aspiration for the post-dictator countries- especially while Sharia groups are also trying to gain revolutionary-brownie-points.

It would be a great loss to the region (and the world at large) to let the extremists lead the uprisings or take charge of regime change, because we were too frightened to anger the autocrats in the gulf states.
Posted by King Hazza, Saturday, 26 February 2011 3:38:55 PM
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