Arjay,

Pilger exaggerates and fabricates information which he presents as carefully researched facts. You should check out his 'facts' before getting carried away with his style and attitude. As I said in an earlier post, he is easily able to recruit those who see conspiracies everywhere.

The US are definitely not friends with Zimbabwe, Cuba or Libya: though I can imagine even with them, that the USA would still have plenty of security policies negotiated with the likes of these countries that they would rather not be revoked on condition of supporting democratic movements. These may include cracking down on people smugglers and drug cartels in their vicinity on the US's behalf. And of course there are probably agreements with these countries and others not to harbor terrorists, not attack Israel, or keep wanted outlaws out of their jurisdiction.

As they're all run by dictators, none of them would be too happy to see the USA supporting a democratic uprising anywhere in the world and in doing so, making them look bad- so naturally they would weave up some crazy conspiracies, provide moral support for the despots under siege (like Chavez rooting for Gaddafi).
Of course, it IS mainly the gulf states that the US doesn't want to offend to much, as it could mean a giant hike in oil prices.

All in all, from their point of view, its a matter of rocking a boat that has been giving such a comfortable ride.

That aside, I definitely hope you're right about this movement expanding to the other countries- it would definitely make the world a better place if it did.

Atman Pilger does not exaggerate or guild the lilly in regards the USA.In fact he does not state the awful truth.The USA Govt was complicit in the events of 911.The Muslims did not do it.We have the scientific,witness and circumstancial evidence to prove it.

I will take bets to any amount for you and others to disprove the evidenece here http://ae911truth.org/ or here http://patriotsquestion911.org/

Have a long hard look at both sites and give me a logical explanation as to why WTC7 the third tower,came down at freefall speeds which no plane impacted.

Cherful, you write:

*John Pilger is an old left wing hippie who has failed to move on in his thinking 40years later, as are a lot of people from that generation.
Julian Assange also grew up under the influence of a left wing hippie single mother.*

What's this? Slag off left wingers, hippies, older people, single mothers, Assange and Pilger all in one fell swoop?

Talk about being fascist.

Not necessarily, Jenny, I think that she has made a very accurate assessment.

When Pilger comes out and criticises Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Zimbabwe for their support for Ghaddafi against the Libyan people, I'll have some time for him.

But I'm not holding my breath :)

With respect for John Pilger and for all of us who have commented on his writing and his persona, I have to reiterate that we share with him the input on our mental formation of schools and media and that, it is on the grounds of this input that our discourse with Pilger or among ourselves is essentially conducted.

The few who have escaped, consciously or unconsciously this input, do not walk the avenues of notoriety but at times can be found facing our learned Judges and often within prisons.

Outside the parameters mentioned we are dazzled, confused by a reality outside our grasp.

One example comes to mind.

We hear and repeat ad nauseam the word Democracy and it seems that each of us has a peculiar idea of it.

Let me advance my definition and ask how many of us agree with it. Here we go:

Democracy is where the Taxpayer (=the only contributor to the wealth common to all in a society) can follow the trial of his/her contribution.

It is clear that this definition is wrong. Were it right, the phenomenon Julian Assange would not have occurred.

The field is open for all.