Mary Elias:"So you have a problem with Catholics."

No, not at all, some of my best friends are catholics. I have a problem with wowsers and faux-moralists who try to push a rather repellant barrow-load of personal prejudices and "social constructionalism".

Sadly, the Catholic diocese of Sydney seems to be full of you.

The views you express are not based on Catholic doctrine, but are more the product of women's studies workshops, with an overlay of what seems to be a real personal fear of sex and the male gender. They are only tangentially congruent with Catholicism, inasmuch as the church has always had an uneasy relationship with human sexuality, probably due to the inordinate number of paedophiles and perverts it harbours within its ranks.

Others have pointed out your hypocrisy and double standard in choosing to focus only on violence by men toward women. I'll simply say "hear. hear", while expecting you to turn a Nelsonian eye.

Maybe I'm just getting old, but for once, I agree with Runner!

In no way should this comment be taken as support for anything Kanye West does, he is an idiot who should be banned from making any more songs.

Mary, may I ask one question of you? Where are the Parents in all this? Or do you believe that everyone else is responsable for raising a child other than the Parents? Maybe it is not so much a result of bad people somehwere over there but decades and decades of appathetic people in the home. Children Mirror and Prefect what thier Parents show them. Commercial Enterprises will also always give the people what they want. If your looking for someone to blame for this you only need look in a mirror.

Aime you might think about the sick idea's that runner and those who share his extreme approach to faith push (including towards children). The idea of hell, the distorted and damaging views on human sexuality, the concept that our best is not good enough for their idea of a loving god who will burn those who don't accept their own worthlessness etc.

I'm not familiar with Mary Elias's history or associations but the brief intro claims that she is a practicing catholic and others claim that she is associated with MTR. MTR has a history of selective (and often far fetched) intepretation of content which she seeks to use to further her own agenda's.

Given the point's others have made about the contents of the video it is telling that the only violence mentioned by Mary is violence against women by men.

Will we see pieces by Mary raising concerns about the damage done to countless people by the teachings of her own church (including sexually)? Will we see a piece discussing the teachings and church culture which lead to a long history of sexual (and other) abuse of children by members of her own church and the coverup/avoidence of the issue by senior leadership for such a long time?

Will we see some pieces about the vast role violence plays in literature, film and television (including criminal minds)?

I've not seen the video being discussed but the article has all the hallmarks of a selective misuse of a part of something to push an agenda with little regard for the real issues.

R0bert

Mary,

Well done, you have done more to promote the video than the producers could wish for. This is a video done for shock content, and I don't recall anyone actually being assaulted, nor do I see anything pornographic.

If it offends your delicate Catholic sensibilities, then try not to watch it. As BR said Rock videos are unlikely to contain people eating cornflakes or prancing through fields of flowers.

Perhaps a note at the end stating that no models or small animals were harmed in the making of the video would make you feel better.

"Aime you might think about the sick idea's that runner and those who share his extreme approach to faith push (including towards children). The idea of hell, the distorted and damaging views on human sexuality, the concept that our best is not good enough for their idea of a loving god who will burn those who don't accept their own worthlessness etc."

My dear RObert. I'm in total agreement with you. I firmly believe that religions of all persuasions should be relegated to the dust-bin of history. I simply cannot understand how, in this enlightened age people can continue to believe in such nonsense and forcing their primitive beliefs and fears down the throat of their children is abhorrent to me, but at the same time if people were not "willing" to be entertained by the likes of this idiot in the film clip (which I haven't watched, but see enough of this type of junk on TV every Saturday mornings at work) this kind of rubbish entertainment (for lack of a better word) would soon cease to exist.

It doesn't matter how the film clip is interpreted, it's pure trash and it's polluting the minds of innocents. Same can be said for that horrid "Ga Ga' thing that masquerades as an entertainer. Parents of the past two generations simply haven't done enough to help prevent the explosion in this form of so called "entertainment." The makers of this crap keep pushing the boundaries and get away with anything they can in the obscene quest for money. I really think decent people should make a stand against this type of industry.