I suggest that you read this paper!
Women’s experiences of male violence:
findings from the Australian component
of the International Violence Against
Women Survey ([IVAWS] 2004)

"The survey collected information from
approximately 16,400 people (both men and
women.The ABS (2006), Personal Safety Survey found that
in the 12 months prior to the survey around 5.8%
(443,800) of women and 11% (808,300) of men had
experienced some form of violence. All respondents
were three times more likely to experience violence
by a man than by a woman (p. 6). Since the age of
fifteen years, 39.9% (3,065,800) of women and 50.1%
(3,744,900) of men had experienced some form of
violence".

"While this finding would indicate that overall
Australian women experienced less violence than
men, the survey clearly demonstrates that women
were significantly more likely to experience violence
(both physical and sexual violence) from a current or
former intimate partner, than men were:

• of the 4.7% of women who were physically
assaulted in the 12 months prior to the
survey, 31% were assaulted by their current
or previous partner (p. 9), whereas

• of the 10% of men who were physically
assaulted in the 12 months prior to the
survey, 4.4% were assaulted by their current
or previous partner
(p. 9).

In addition,
• of the 1.6% of women who experienced
sexual violence in the 12 months prior to the
survey, 39% had been assaulted by a family
member or friend, 32% by other known
persons, 21.8% by a stranger, 21.1% by a
previous partner and 7.7% were sexually
assaulted by a current partner (p. 11 and
Table 19; p. 33) , whereas

• of the 0.6% of men who had experienced
sexual violence in the 12 months prior to the
survey, 44% had experienced assault from a
family member or friend in the most recent
incident, 35% by an other known person
and 33% by a stranger (p. 11).

(cont)

(The Personal Safety Survey is significant in being a
national survey of men and women’s experience of
violence. There are few studies available in Australia
that provide this kind of information. This study was
eagerly anticipated in the violence prevention sector
in terms of providing a measure of change since the
ABS (1996), Women’s Safety, Australia survey.cont.)

The Australian component of the IVAWS (Mouzos
and Makkai 2004) is valuable in providing
information about rates of violence against
Australian women generally. For example, it found
that around 57% of the women surveyed reported
experiencing at least one incident of physical
violence or sexual violence over their lifetime;
48% experienced physical violence and 34% had
experienced sexual violence (p. 19).
The survey identified specific information about the
rates of intimate partner violence:
• 34% of women who had ever had an
intimate partner reported experiencing
at least one form of violence during their
lifetime from a partner; 31% experienced
physical violence and 12% experienced
sexual violence from a partner (p. 44 Figure
11) and
• 6% of women who had a current or former
intimate partner reported being forced
to have sexual intercourse at some stage
during their lifetime; sexual intercourse
being the most common form of sexual
violence perpetrated by intimate partners
(p. 46).

This is worth repeating:
it found
that around 57% of the women surveyed reported
experiencing at least one incident of physical
violence or sexual violence over their lifetime;
48% experienced physical violence and 34% had
experienced sexual violence (p. 19).

Go to the website of Australian Domestic & Family Violence and read many of the articles and reports!

Stats from this article and others are viewed with the actual stats of people who present at Accident & Emergency wards around the country, plus the reports of police around the country re their experiences re domestic & family violence call outs, the figures are just too startling to ignore. As I've said before, those who still assert to the contrary have their own agendas - and justice & truth have little or nothing to do with their goals!

@Roscop Fair enough, it sounded like you were implying I was lying but I can understand how that confusion could have happened with the point you were trying to make.

@Liz You first accused me of my abuse being a mischievous lie, then when you were called out on it, you diminished it by turning the entire thread into a pissing contest. You claim to not condone abuse against men, but the moment you hear about it, you either villainise the person opening up about it or diminish it by turning the whole thing into a pissing contest.

You have been on the receiving end of what you have been on the receiving end of, entirely due to your own sexism. You've been caught out by your own words after acting like an abuser and have the gaul to still try and play the victim.

Furthermore, when you actually examine the 2006 ABS personal safety survey alone (http://www.relationships.com.au/resources/pdfs/rest/trvol68.pdf/), without factoring stereotypical barriers to disclosure, even in a survey, you still have men being victims of violence in general more than woman and 1/3 the levels of women- yet by your own argument, one level should be completely ignored and dismissed but a level 3 times higher than it should receive 100% of the focus. Yet if we're about equality, then surely if 25% of men are victims then they deserve 25% of the resources and focus.

That's not even critically evaluating the studies you refer to, on grounds of the nature of the questions asked and the focus of them.

Yet even saying this, I'm not the one calling for an abused gender and abusive gender to be dismissed- the only person doing that here is you!

Furthermore Liz, if it's so overwhelmingly in one direction, then why is it that the pioneers of Domestic Violence research, Erin Pitzey and Richard Gelles have come out and said that domestic violence is almost a 50/50 split between male and female abusers and male and female victims?

Furthermore, why is violence in lesbian relationships ignored by women's groups when Erin Pitzey had the following to say: "How, I kept asking, could the feminist movement claim that men were 'perpetrators' when the figures for women attacking each other were as high or higher than the figures for men abusing women?"

But then you've already proven yourself to be a textbook example of what feminists pull here- they talk the talk of individuals who want to universally end abuse; but they walk the walk of individuals who want a system where male victims are forced to suffer in fear and silence and female abusers are able to prey on any victims they choose with virtual impunity from then law.

Liz

Why is it so important for you to "prove" that men are worse than women? This issue needs to be simply a problem to be fixed, not some competition.

I've not noticed any sign from Liz that she has bothered to read material by Straus referenced elsewhere discussing issues around the way DV stats are manipulated and the truth hidden. She is desperate for men to reread the same old material over and over again but does not appear to be willing to look at the other side of the issue.

Again a few references so that difficulty in finding references is not an excuse for willful ignorance

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V74-gender-symmetry-with-gramham-Kevan-Method%208-.pdf

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V75-Straus-09.pdf

http://www.mediaradar.org/docs/Dutton_GenderParadigmInDV-Pt1.pdf

R0bert