Changalang has a point. While the gender wars continue the lawyers are raking it in.

vanna
You have not really answered the question. I don't know any feminist (if one must use labels) that advocate demonising men. There are as many news items relaying bad acts by mothers/women as men. Pointing out a horrific crime by one individual is not demonising that person's gender. Are we all that sensitive about gender that we cannot truthfully analyse where things went wrong in each case and punish those responsible. We are becoming a wuss society if a gender war has more weight than justice.

I asked you how you thought society should be structured gender-wise that would make you happy about the role of women and men in society.

If your only response is for men not to be demonised - then you would not be alone. Can we add that we also stop demonising single mothers, women who choose careers over children, women CEOs and women who stay at home and the most demonised group at least on OLO, feminists.

Women carry the child and risk their lives to give birth to children and in the vast majority of cases, they do the bulk of child rearing. Men need to SUPPORT women/mothers in this rather than try to demonize or hurt the mother through the children. The original story on here was about a mother who believed her child was being abused. Looking through online archives, I see that she left the marriage because she said she was also being abused. If this is her perception (what is considered abuse by one, another might be able to discount or ignore), then who are we to judge. this father should have done everything to dispel her fears rather than try to fight her in court and take the child from her. Go into supervised visits, do what was needed to prove his innocence of this allegation.

As a mother and a former victim of abuse, if MY child came to me and said the things this child allegedly said, I would withhold her from dad also - even knowing that I would go to jail for that. I would do whatever I had to do in order to protect that which came from MY BODY. All that comes from a man;s body in the creation of a child is sperm. Women/mothers also donate one cell - but they nurture that creation inside carrying it for 9 months (give or take) until she risks her life giving birth. Sorry men and men supporters can cry all they want but until you carry a child and give birth and risk YOUR LIFE, you should have no say over said life. We women gave birth and risked our lives - not you. Don't like the outomes in cases of separation and divorce - keep it in your pants.

<I must ask all the fathers on this article - how much of the actual day to day care of the child did you do before divorce? You should answer this honestly.>

What this got to do with the price of eggs? Abusevictim.

"once research stops showing women as victims, the research stops." Warren Farrell.

Manufacturing Research
http://web.archive.org/web/20050313222440/http://www.nojustice.info/Research/ManufacturingResearch.htm

":However, there is a twist. The GBA experts tell those who aspire to land a lucrative contract with the government to begin their research "with women's experience as they (the women themselves) see it". They then turn around and say that, after all, that is not what they meant. What they really meant is that women research subjects need to be educated to realize that feminist researchers, with their superior intellect and training, are in the best position to interpret what women's experiences are. "

"Though feminist researchers unequivocally, and without providing proof, state that the incidence of false allegations by women is negligible, an analysis of court documents relating to false allegations by a Queen's University (Kingston, Ont.) law professor, Nicholas Bala, a feminist apologist with impeccable credentials, exposes the fallacy in a paper called "Sexual Abuse Allegation When Parents Have Separated:Social Context & Evidentiary Issues”:"

Interestingly if data is not collected, feminists then can say the problem does not exist because the data does not support that.

The truth is, research can be and is easily manipulated, particularly when the raw data does not support or conflicts with feminist dogma.

It is true that zealots, choose to extrapolate their own personal experiences to include all relationships and instances of alleged abuse.

Abuse victim, we can fire potshots at each all day.

However the feminist movement and the R/C and Anglican churches have much in common, by trying to cover up or not taking seriously abuses committed by their members.

@Antiseptic

I do not own the blog dastardlydads.blogspot.com. I only own one blog and that blog is set to private - it is a journal for my feelings and actions in a court case by an abuser. NOBODY can view this blog, except me.

I found dastardly dads while doing a search on killer moms and dads. Then i started researching why women were put on in the spotlight after committing the most unforgivable act ever - the killing of one's own children. It was then that I discovered how many dads versus how many moms were killing and hurting children and how the media treated them.

You can say whatever you would like but I stand by my most recent post just before this one - mother only carry a child inside them risking their lives during that process and then they give birth to that child again engaging in even more risks to their very own life. Women should be the ones responsible if no agreement can be reached as to the care of the child that came from her body.

You supplied one cell, we supplied one cell and our very health and lives to bring that child into existence. When you risk your life to do the same then you should be allowed to have a greater voice in this.

AbuseVictim my heart goes out to you for your experience, however I don't agree that mothers always make the best parents or that we have first dibs purely by giving birth.

It is clear that children need the benefit of a good mother and father and the best arrangements would include both parents. There is no one-size fits all.

The most important factor is for the child not to be put in an abusive situation just to serve some PC interests of parent groups. Children are not here to serve the egos of their parents, they are individuals in their own rights who should, when they are at their most vulnerable, depend on the system to get it right.

I believe that we could easily halve the number of false allegations, if we reduced the amount of child support payable. Securing child support money must be the single biggest motive for lying about abuse.How about putting broader notions of fairness above supporting the interests of women.

Abusevictims

Society has decided that fathers need to play a large role in the raising of children. Therefore, it is reasonable for us to want to stay in our children's lives after seperation.

Where is your evidence that dads make more false allegations than mothers?