vanna
What an unhappy experience you must have had to believe that all university academics hate men. I have never met any man-haters in my university days, so you have indeed had a run of bad luck.

I must correct one of your statements about IVF, it is not possible to get pregnant without a man. You cannot fertilise an egg without sperm and as yet I don't think anyone has come up with a synthetic version thank goodness. A woman still needs her husband's sperm (or a donor) to be able to fall pregnant.

That is the biology lesson for today.

As you were....

Pelican, LOL!
Thanks for adding the sperm lesson to the mix (pun intended)!
I had forgotten to add it to my lesson above- which you will notice that our resident 'expert' Vanna, failed to comment on.

RObert, again, I am sorry for upsetting you. I realise you must have had a bad experience with CSA and family courts etc, and you don't usually have a go at all women because of that.
I will try not to lump you in with Antiseptic and formersnag next time.

I think I have said about all I can on this sexuality thread now.
I'm thinking about starting one on 'Feminism - a Lifestyle'.
What do you reckon Pelican?

Suzie thanks.

Pelican it occurred to me that there has been some big progress on same sex conception using material from skin cell's to try and produce female sperm and male egg's. From what I've seen the female sperm line of research has progressed further than male egg's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_technology
http://www.eggandsperm.org/ (a site for those who don't approve)

R0bert

"I'm thinking about starting one on 'Feminism - a Lifestyle'.
What do you reckon Pelican?"

heh heh Suze. You are one brave woman - batten down the hatches.

RObert
That is indeed a scary thought - very brave new world and adds a whole new dimension to GMO. :)

Although I note the article is listed as not citing any reliable references or research sources.

pelican I've not seen any indisputable references but I've not seen anything to leave me particularly suspicious of the claims.

On the face of it I can see a lot more pressing needs in terms of medical and reproductive research but sometimes stuff like that actually has some really valuable spin off's. Researchers trying to work out how to do one thing have a habit of learning a while lot of other things along the way.

R0bert

Pelican,
Thanks for the lecture about my past life that you know nothing about (it must be your amazing university education that enables you to do this).

So could you point to the literature published by an academic feminist in an Australian university that says something good about the male gender.

A lot is written about “males” and “men” by these academics, but no one on this forum at least has found any such documents that say one good thing about males.

I am also quite aware that sperm is used in IVF clinics, and I am also aware that sperm is mixed with animal eggs to test it (but this practice is not classed as a form of bestiality by IVF clinics), am I am aware of the plethora of drugs given to women during IVF, and I am aware that there are a growing number of IVF clinics that now have single women as their main cliental.

Awaiting your list of Australian academic feminists who have published articles that say something good about the male gender (best of luck in finding any).