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'I’m staring at your t*ts': why sexual harassment in the workplace continues : Comments

By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 7/6/2010

How ‘playing the game’ contributes to a hostile working environment for women.

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hey trolls, here is a song I would like to dedicate to you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tSZLdSCB_o
Posted by lisbeth salander, Monday, 7 June 2010 7:18:46 PM
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I am not a fan of this article either. We start off with a story about workplace sexual harassment and then bang on about mother's in the workplace.

In any case, I can't see why all the usual anti-feminists are raving about women covering up their chests in order to stop men staring at them.

Exactly what garments would you have us wear to stop some men staring at our chests guys?

I have never worn low cut or chest hugging tops in my life- due to the unfortunate generous sizing of my chest- but yet I have certainly had my share of comments and stares all of my adult life.

What would you guys have me do then? Should I wear a box or a shapeless sack, or a burqa perhaps?

I usually handle any unwelcome come-ons with a bit of humour, and turn it back on them. Complaining that women yell 'harassment' for some guys but not others is simply because some harass and some don't, it is not rocket science really.

People who sexually harass others are bullies.
They are not simply the usual male (or female)who are appreciating the attributes of the opposite sex without making it too leeringly obvious.
Posted by suzeonline, Monday, 7 June 2010 7:27:16 PM
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It is no wonder that voters are showing frustration with government. Taxes are regularly ramped up for essentials like vehicle registration and land taxes (increased 30% in Qld last year), while at the same time the bucket of revenue leaks like a colander for politically correct commissions and their bumpf carried over from the Seventies and Eighties:

http://www.adcq.qld.gov.au/pubs/sexharr.html

It is all more important than doctors, nurses and hospital beds apparently.
Posted by Cornflower, Monday, 7 June 2010 7:36:50 PM
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"People who sexually harass others are bullies."

But the point some commentators are making here is that two people can act in identical ways but -- because you find one of them attractive and the other unattractive -- one can end up accused of sexual harassment while the other is regarded as a valued friend and admirer. And from any perspective it is simply unfair to discriminate against people on the basis of how they look. So the next time you are tempted to accuse someone of harassment, ask whether you are reacting to the behaviour or to the person.

There is also a strong asymmetry in how men and women typically find sex partners. Women sit back and wait; men have to make the running. Men who sit back and wait for sex get old without it. That's not fair either. But that's why rules against sexual harassment are no burden for most women, since they don't do it anyway: the burden falls squarely on men. Is that fair?

When biology has embedded deep-seated differences between two sexes it may be silly and futile to try and pretend they don't exist.
Posted by Jon J, Monday, 7 June 2010 7:44:08 PM
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lisbeth salander demonstrates absolutely prefectly, that anyone who has a different point of view or disagrees with a feminist must be a troll and guilty of being mysognistitic.

sometimes attempts at humour are in bad taste, or people have really bad manners.

Now if I recall correctly 'sexual harassement' is behaviour that is unwelcomed and repeated.

One off incidence do not qualify under the definition, that is unless the law has been changed.

Then I suppose that if a male, who the woman in the story found to be attractive, then comments about her 'tits' would not be unwelcomed.

Suzeonline correctly points out the convolution of the article, in that is started about a one off comment about tits and then it switches to about mothers in the workplace.

Such technique on the part of writers is used to hook the readers emotional response, to over ride the logical and critical thinking parts of the brain.

A one off comment offensive comment maybe bad manners, but the commentator will not know that until the comment is made. He/she will only know when the person who is commented about reacts. He/she may or may not be offended.
Posted by JamesH, Monday, 7 June 2010 7:56:19 PM
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Before we can debate this issue we need to clarify some terminology:
Misogynist – a man who doesn’t like to stare at women’s breasts
(sometimes colloquially referred to as “gay”).
Microgynist – a man who likes to stare at small breasts.
Mesogynist – a man who likes to stare at medium-size breasts.
Megalogynist – a man who likes to stare at large breasts.
Olagynist – a man who likes to stare at all women’s breasts
(by far the most common type).

Feminist stereotyper – a woman who assumes that all micro/meso/megalo/olagynists drink beer when all they really want to do is to suck from some jugs.
Posted by Proxy, Monday, 7 June 2010 7:58:56 PM
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