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'I’m staring at your t*ts': why sexual harassment in the workplace continues : Comments
By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 7/6/2010How ‘playing the game’ contributes to a hostile working environment for women.
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Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 7 June 2010 11:57:29 AM
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MTR,
Maybe in your next life you can come back as a man and "have it all". Meanwhile, cover up your t*tties and get on with your job, such as it is- complaining or victimology or something like that? Or you could try the truly liberating experience of wearing a burqa. Posted by Proxy, Monday, 7 June 2010 1:11:01 PM
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When women actually mean yes or no when they say yes or no then we'll get somewhere. If one bloke can look with impunity but another is offending then surely that's discrimination. Why not hang a sign over the cleavage reading it's ok for you to stare but not for you !
Whatever happened to telling a bloke off when he is not welcome ? Have women lost the basics of body language altogether ? How can a bloke tell what's going on when there's no sign ? Don't want attention ? Don't advertise ! Simple ! Anyhow, I'm glad I'm past that stage. Posted by individual, Monday, 7 June 2010 2:57:30 PM
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It has always confused me that women would actually want to do what high flying men do.
I would much rather stay at home with the babies than go off and backstab, arselick, sell out, fight, conform, drink, work 70 hour weeks, wear a suit, commute, cheat, bully, submit, lie, exploit, philander etc etc etc that goes along with the greed and testosterone driven world of power and money. You sold your soul for power and money the same as the blokes did. You cant really complain. Well feminists you got your wish(sort of) but I think you were wishing for the wrong thing. Posted by mikk, Monday, 7 June 2010 3:03:57 PM
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One day at work, an attractive female colleague told me about a t-shirt a bloke was wearing, it said "could you please tell your tits to stop staring at my eyes."
She thought the t-shirt was rather good. Me, knowning the mine field that sexual harasement laws have created, sat rather dumbly not game enough to say anything. As a red blooded heterosexual male, I like looking at tits and would play with more of them, if I was allowed. On the other hand many of my females colleagues will sit down and openly discuss all the nasty things men do to women, expecially if there was a recent news item. It got to the stage that I'd get up and leave the room, when they started. There are much more stuble ways to create a hostile atmosphere, then just referring to tits. Posted by JamesH, Monday, 7 June 2010 4:10:48 PM
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Shadow Minister, "MTR's penchant for taking isolated anecdotal situations and expanding to generalities is not very helpful.
The real question is whether behaviour like this occurs too frequently and whether the protective laws are balanced. None of this has been addressed here." Well said, however such laws need a sunset clause as do the kangaroo courts that administer them eg HREOC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunset_provision Posted by Cornflower, Monday, 7 June 2010 4:46:04 PM
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Are there laws against it and are they enforced? The answer is yes to both. However it still occurs.
The question is whether it is an isolated incident or if the world is falling down around us. (hopefully the former)
With an increasing number of relationships starting in the work place there will always be some sexual interaction, hopefully most of it appropriate. There will always be those idiots that push the limits even if they introduced hanging as a deterrent.
MTR's penchant for taking isolated anecdotal situations and expanding to generalities is not very helpful.
The real question is whether behaviour like this occurs too frequently and whether the protective laws are balanced. None of this has been addressed here.