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Windschuttle and the Stolen Generations : Comments
By Cameron Raynes, published 19/3/2010The SA State Children’s Council's 'unequivocal statement' clearly shows its intention was to 'put an end to Aboriginality'.
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Posted by Ngarmada, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 5:36:21 AM
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Ngarmada,
I think I remember you now - you were the weird guy who wanted us to buy in paedophile stuff, you used to drive slowly around the streets of Ponsonby looking for kids to photograph, and that's right, you were working part-time for ASIS, we saw you talking to an undercover cop at a demo and taking pictures of PYM members. Do you still have your camera ? It all comes back now. How long have you been out ? Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 6:49:39 AM
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"Aka, excuse me Auntie, this fella blairbar, and other racists, ridiculed me and Stephen Hagan, with Stephen’s article on the important issue of the Ethics Council,"
The only comment I made on the topic “The Ethics Council: some inconvenient truths” was this: “Ngarmada You may be bicultural, bilingual, bipolar or bisexual for all I care, but your postings are complete gibberish. “http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=9964 Posted by blairbar, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 7:22:44 AM
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Joe, you wrote: Windshuttle does cover the legislation, to demonstrate that it has never been legal to remove Aboriginal children without their parents' consent. What else should he have commented on from GRG 52/1?
I think you're a little confused now. The legislation is not contained in GRG 52/1. As I said, GRG 52/1 contains the correspondence of the Aborigines Department. It contains the most amazing raw material -- letters from Aboriginal people, police, doctors, missionaries, etc. It is the ONLY comprehensive source of information on the relationship between Aboriginal people and the South Australian government. Every historian, including Windschuttle, knows that if you don't engage with this set of records, you have failed at your task of being a historian. So, in relation to his chapter on South Australia, it appears he has not looked at ANY of the primary historical records. Maybe, like me, he was effectively banned from them. But he doesn't say that. His scholarship on the topic of the stolen generations in SA is not even second-rate. If he was one of my second-year history students I'd give him, perhaps, a conceded pass. Nothing more. Hi Keith! Posted by Cameron R, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 7:37:01 AM
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Thanks David Jennings. I hope you find The Last Protector as engrossing to read as I found the writing and research of it.
Cheers, Cameron Raynes Posted by Cameron R, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 7:37:58 AM
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ngarmado - what that's covert agenda do you reckon? "In response to your concluding question CJ, its patently obvious such elements retain a covert agenda"
response "Well Amicus, its like if you keep adding the same number to itself and continually realising a clearly aberrant result, you know there is a problem. And if the maths don’t add up, the answer probably wont be the cliched explanations trotted out, e.g. ‘the dog died, the curtains are on fire, it’s the cats birthday,’ if you get my drift, there could be something else going on. yada yada yada". What in the world? no I don't get your "drift", this is just gobbledegook. So is there a covert agenda or not? What is the covert agenda? If you were just bullshytting, just say so, don't crap on with a load of rubbish though. I can see you challenged by trying to be clever, but keep reverting to hatred, so don't bother responding if its going to be yet more flaming, life's too short to deal with fools who resort to cries of racism whenever things get too difficult. Challenging and trying to understand the "stolen generations" in Australia is difficult, there is a lot of emotion involved, rightly or wrongly. Perhaps we will only be able to analyze it fully once everyone involved had died and we can distance ourselves from the personal side. Then just analyze the raw facts without the personal noise. It seems anyone who tries to approach it objectively is immediately seen by believers in the SG to be a non believer and must be treated as an adversary and be hysterically attacked. This does not wash out in the community and people then keep their views to themselves as they are reluctant to be castigated loudly in public be those who wish to shout down any questioning. That's why you have a problem selling the whole Stolen Generations story, regardless of PM Rudd's apology, the majority of the community just turn off when the SG is mentioned because we expect and get responses like ngarmatas and Agas. Posted by Amicus, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 8:10:30 AM
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Exemplifying that delusion of the sun revolving around them, these bigots attempt to demonstrate that if an indigenous person actually deigns to converse with them, that automatically realises these bigots as accepted authorities.
Not really, its simply the duplicity they would have you believe.
You and your bookshop were known to us in Auckland Joe. Did you not have some problems relevant to your involvement with paedophile literature and activity? And was the reason nothing came of those enquiries, because you were a NZ Police informant?
Alike the indigenous people in every country, we monitor any potential threats to the people on our watch, it is our responsibility as custodians of the land. It may be ostensibly the only reason the Jacksons spoke with your wife, and that she is an indigenous person from a neighbouring country. Perhaps a highly irresponsible indigenous person if she tolerates your deviant malevolence.
Therefore we may observe such malevolence a common thread of the disturbingly malevolent nature and dysfunction, common to the racist bigotry of those posting on OLO, as with similar illnesses, e.g. ozzie the female stalker on OLO [whom it appears has driven a young female lawyer from OLO with his obsessively malevolent behaviour], and the observed deviant, Loudmouth aka Joe.
Continued