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Windschuttle and the Stolen Generations : Comments
By Cameron Raynes, published 19/3/2010The SA State Children’s Council's 'unequivocal statement' clearly shows its intention was to 'put an end to Aboriginality'.
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Posted by Ngarmada, Monday, 22 March 2010 12:37:51 PM
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blairbar,
I did not state that there were no cases. I personally know of cases, where children were given into the care of non-Indigenous people on the islands, in one case as a way of sharing as they had no children of their own. There was never an intention of allowing the children to be removed from the community and be bought up white. Perhaps if I were being very kindly I might suggest that it was a clash of cultural parenting expectations - non-indigenous ownership of children as opposed to the community parenting that is evident in both Aboriginal and Torres Strait communities. If you would like to know more, you will be up for a lot of reading. Try starting with Warwick Anderson's "The cultivation of Whiteness", and then perhaps Anna Haebich's "Broken Circles". If your wife's family and community are prepared to talk with you, they will be able to tell you stories that will undermine your stand. There is a reason that people were frightened of welfare agents in the Torres Strait, and don't forget the role that the pacific Island missionaries had in pacifying and colonising the Torres Strait. our NZ colleague is right when stating that you do not have the right to speak for your wife's people. I hope you are not assuming a role that many non-indigenous men take when marrying Indigenous women - that of the saviour, doing them a favour in aligning your superiour self with the poor woman. My name is Aka, Kebi boy. Posted by Aka, Monday, 22 March 2010 1:20:01 PM
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fascinating - aka is "kebi boy" and insult?
ngarmado - what that's covert agenda do you reckon? "In response to your concluding question CJ, its patently obvious such elements retain a covert agenda" Posted by Amicus, Monday, 22 March 2010 1:36:10 PM
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Good for you. Do you slag them off to their faces or only behind their backs?
CJ Morgan, Do I understand you correctly ? It's ok to go along when praise or sympathy are due but if unpleasant facts are stated then it's racism ? I think you're utterly at a loss when it comes to sober observation. When did you ever see me slagging off the indigenous when it's not justified ? I don't ! When I witness wrong doing then I state the facts, not slag off. If you can't differentiate then should should keep your hands off the keyboard. I believe I can see the difference between right & wrong. In conversatons with elders (many of whom are younger than I) it is confirmed to me that there are many out there who are very quick at playing victim but unavailable for responsibility. Posted by individual, Monday, 22 March 2010 1:48:55 PM
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Amicus,
Kebi is an adjective that is not a swear word. It is meant to relate to the level of blairbar's knowledge. It is up to him whether he finds it insulting or informative. I hope you also read some of the items I have recomended. They are facinating reading and might inform your future thinking if you are prepared to read with an open mind and open heart. Posted by Aka, Monday, 22 March 2010 1:51:08 PM
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Amicus
Kebi is Eastern Island language for small. To call a grown man a small boy is indeed insulting but then personal abuse is always indicative of a lack of argument. Aka is Western Island language for Grandma. Aka "our NZ colleague is right when stating that you do not have the right to speak for your wife's people." You are taking notice of Ngarmada's ravings? I thought you were a little more aware. Show me one example of my "speaking for my wife's people". "I hope you are not assuming a role that many non-indigenous men take when marrying Indigenous women - that of the saviour, doing them a favour in aligning your superiour self with the poor woman." How impertinent and spiteful. You have almost descended to the base level of your NZ colleague. All I want is some evidence of government authorized removals of generations of Torres Strait Islander children. "they will be able to tell you stories that will undermine your stand." That is the problem: they have no knowledge about the removal of Torres Islander children and neither does The Murray Island school. "However, the Islanders were not pushed off their islands or their children taken from them. Inmateship for them was a form of soft violence. Killing them softly as a 'chosen people' meant a loss of confidence in themselves. In Islanders' language it meant being made into 'monkey-men', like puppets on strings performing for others, especially for the father-figure Protector." http://www.mabonativetitle.com/mer_27.shtml The Cultivation of Whiteness" and "Broken Circles". look like interesting reads but neither has anything to do with "Stolen Generations" from Torres Strait. Posted by blairbar, Monday, 22 March 2010 3:09:06 PM
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For exemplifying the classic colonial racist bigot, as classic as the arrogance of Windschuttle, we find blairbar speaking not only on behalf of the people his wife belongs to, implying he speaks with some authority from within those people, but further, in reference to a report on sensitive issues of violence against women.
I hope your wife is finding great consolation in spending your money blairbar, you obviously could not cut it among the Maori in NZ, and I doubt the people of the Torres Strait Islands would appreciate your misrepresentation of them. I will ensure your deceit is not overlooked.
For I wonder whose viewpoint those people of the Torres Strait Islands would agree with blairbar, yours, or the findings of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Women’s Taskforce on Violence? Although I concede you would be a disgrace to any people you attempted to misrepresent.
This patently observed duplicity by such racists as blairbar and his ilk on OLO, is confluent with that which led to the infiltration of the Quadrant by parasites alike Windschuttle. For if such attitudes and mindset had not been culturally evident, and inevitably organised, that incursion would not have prevailed.
You need to try and find some integrity of character blairbar, and although I realise your inherent disadvantage, if the family background you advise is reliable, you will not find that virtue in your wilfulness to spout whatever malice comes off the top of your obviously disturbed head, in support of your obvious delusion of resurrection of the ‘empire.’