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The ABC has had another brainstorm:

"The ABC’s vision for reconciliation is an Australia in which Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander names, voices and languages—and the culture and wisdom they reflect—become an everyday part of the national vocabulary.

It will know that this has been achieved when the words, stories and traditions of Australia’s First Peoples have been so embraced and integrated into the way Australians speak as to be unremarkable".

Pretty stupid when more and more people, including remote aborigines, and ABC employees have so much trouble with English, and aboriginal languages are even more useless than all other dead languages.

The idea that Aboriginal kids and adults can somehow benefit from learning and reviving a near-lost local language is fanciful. There are few native speakers able to teach. Only about 10% of people speak native language.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 10 December 2022 7:35:17 AM
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Dear Paul,

You asked - " what was a good year for the Australian
Aboriginal people since 1788?"

In order to answer your question properly I've asked
for the following book as a Christmas present - so
you'll have to wait a while for my reply.

The book is:

"Aboriginal Australians: A History since 1788," by
Richard Broome ( Revised 5th edition published by Allen & Unwin
2019). It sells for $39.99.

Sharon Meagher, Aboriginal Education Development Officer
at the Women & Children's Hospital, Adelaide - writes:

" Richard Broome tells the history of Australia from the
standpoint of the original Australians: those who lost most
in the early colonial struggle for power. Surveying over
two centuries of Aboriginal European encounters he shows how
white settlers steadily supplanted the original inhabitants
from the shining coasts to inland deserts."

" He also tells the story of Aboriginal survival through
resistance and accommodation, and traces the continuing
Aboriginal struggle to move from the margins of a settler
society to a more central place in moder Australia."

"Broome's "Aboriginal Australian," has long been regarded
as the most authoratative account of black-white relations
in Australia. This 5th edition continues the story covering
the impact of the Northern Territory Intervention, the
mining boom in remote Australia, the Uluru Statement, the
resurgence of interest in traditional Aboriginal
knowledge and culture and the new generation of leaders."

"Richard Broome's historical analysis breaks the back of every
theoretical argument about colonialism and establishes a clear
pathway to understanding the present situation."
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 December 2022 9:35:24 AM
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Pauliar,

You are the biggest racist pig and liar on this site.

Foxy,

This experiment looks more like an irreversible handover of veto power to a racially based activist group. Why you would like to entrench apartheid in Aus is beyond me.
Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 10 December 2022 4:13:32 PM
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Going overboard there SM, lost it have you?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 10 December 2022 6:38:43 PM
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The only one with an entrenched racists view is YOU SM, as you can't accept that the "inferior" black fella should be on an equal footing with a "superior" white such as yourself. Referencing apartheid is your attempt to muddy the waters for what is a legitimate, straight forward proposal to allow Aboriginal people a nonbinding say, enshrined in the Constitution, in matters affecting them as far as federal legislation is concerned. The parliament will still be the sole arbitrator of law.

BTW; your opinions expressed on here in the past makes it clear you are an advocate for apartheid, but only when it gives authority to those of your ilk over the so called "inferior" black fella.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 10 December 2022 9:13:47 PM
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It's the 30th anniversary of Keating's Redfern Speech and I can't see evidence of much progress since then, in fact some things have gone backwards.

Howard took a step back with the Wik scare campaign, Rudd got the apology out of the way (with no massive class actions that were supposed to be the result) but here we are back at the start again.

Whatever we have attempted so far has been one failure after another because we are not really consulting - just administrating and doing what we think is best.

The argument that there are already indigenous members in Parliament is false because they are still Party members and act primarily in the interests of their party. A recent example is the two attempts made by Morrison's own then-Minister Ken Wyatt to table the Voice document (which they commissioned on the first place) were denied. Obviously a political stance rather than a philosophical one because they didn't want the matter debated or publicly discussed.

Despite all the scare-mongering and half-truths the bottom line is that any effect the Voice may have can be changed by whatever government is in power at the time via simple legislation and even dismantled to the point of irrelevance.
Posted by rache, Sunday, 11 December 2022 12:17:55 AM
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