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ttbn,

If presenting facts as given by Britannica and other
reputable sources to you is "blowing it out of my arse?" Then I'm
curious as to where you get your information
from? And you can't keep accusing people of being abusive
simply because their facts don't agree with your opinion.
I think it's you who is doing all the blowing.
But it's perfectly understandable considering your ancestry.

Dear rache,

Thanks for that.
Glad to see you posting again.

Dear Paul,

There's so many stories that we can share. And you've got
some terrific ones. I guess it is hard for some to understand
bigotry - if they've never experienced it. Listening to
the Aboriginal poet and actor Steven Oliver on Q and A
the other night - made me realize how fortunate I've
been in my life compared to what he's had to live through.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 8 December 2022 9:08:35 AM
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Hi Foxy,

That was something special from Steven Oliver the other night. I am reasonably confident Australians will know the real value of a 'YES' vote in the up coming referendum, just as they did with the vote on the question of gay marriage.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 8 December 2022 9:30:52 AM
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Dear Paul,

I also have confidence in the Australian people this time
to do the right thing. It is unfortunate that some, including
the Nationals, have injected misinformation and vitriol into
the debate so early on.

Prof. Marcia Langton has pointed
out "It's too important to play nasty electoral politics about -
it would be terribly unfortunate for all Australians if the
debate sank into a nasty, eugenicist, 19th-century style of
debate about the superior race versus the inferior race."

The criticism that the government has not released enough
detail about the proposal is simply not true. Prof. Langton
and Calma were the authors of the Indigenous Voice Co-Design
process. The final Report was presented to the former Coalition
government in 2021 laying out in great detail how a National
Voice model would operate and how it would link to local and
regional Voice groups.

The paper was presented to Cabinet by former Indigenous
Australians Minister Ken Wyatt who last week implored his
Nationals colleagues to read it.

There's more at the following link:

http://theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/05/indigenous-voice-to-parliament-referendum-marcia-langton-warns-risk-eugenicist-race-debate
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 8 December 2022 10:09:37 AM
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Foxy,

If the "voice" report put together by ML indicates the request is asking for co-governance.

I'm sure the voters will do the right thing and reject this apartheid.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 8 December 2022 10:40:18 AM
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shadowminister,

The Voice is asking to simply be an advisory body as
I'm sure you know - or should know. Stop the nastiness
and misinformation.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 8 December 2022 10:45:40 AM
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Absolute bollocks Foxy:

From the report:

"The Indigenous Voice would provide a way for Indigenous Australians to have a greater say on the design, development and implementation of policies and programs that affect them."

That is not "simply an advisory body" unless you are incredibly naive, mendacious or retarded.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 8 December 2022 10:58:14 AM
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