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The Forum > General Discussion > Climate and CO2: No Evidence, No Debate

Climate and CO2: No Evidence, No Debate

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This'll upset a few folk....

http://twitter.com/goodfoodgal/status/1568173044828631041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1568173044828631041%7Ctwgr%5Ed0dddda047d80cc35e5cd58b9ecf4e94d863a6d2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Dpj-instapunditt_i%3D1-541697t_u%3Dhttps3A2F2Finstapundit.com2F5416972Ft_e%3DOPEN20THREAD3A2020Just20do20it.t_d%3DInstapundit20C2BB20Blog20Archive20C2BB20OPEN20THREAD3A20Just20do20it.t_t%3DOPEN20THREAD3A2020Just20do20it.s_o%3Dascl%3Dversion%3D0837a7fb2afa86b68e4ee5098ec9905b
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 10 September 2022 1:33:37 PM
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"But these droughts have me a little bit worried.
Are human beings, through increased population and agriculture sucking up all the water?"

AC

It is known that the density of vegetation can influence rainfall. My interest is in whether increasing the density of life in the sea via ocean fertilisation can increase the rainfall on the surrounding land. The hypothesis is that vegetative life increases the amount of heat trapped in the surface of the ocean, so increasing temperature and evaporation. It also releases volatile sulphur compounds into the atmosphere which help clouds to form. It is unlikely we will see such experiments, but there is evidence of the process happening via air and water pollution, the smoke from bushfires being an example. I am amazed at the lack of interest. People seem to prefer the idea of screaming "Catastrophe!" and casting blame.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 10 September 2022 1:45:18 PM
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Rising CO2 levels indeed make plants greener but the type of increased growth in many food crops usually results in a lower nutrition yield so we would need to consume more to get the same result.

Also - https://www.bu.edu/articles/2019/humans-are-officially-greening-the-earth-is-that-a-good-thing/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/science/climate-change-plants-global-greening.html
Posted by rache, Sunday, 11 September 2022 1:53:58 AM
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rache,

So are you claiming that living tissue is degraded because it grows more quickly? That sounds a bit nonsensical to me. As an example, meat chickens grow in six weeks I think. Does this mean they are less nutritious, or does your claim only apply to plants. I know that for fish you tend to get a larger mercury content for longer lived fish. Does that make older fish more nutritious than younger fish? To me it sounds like something an "I'm never wrong!" climate zealot might make up, along the lines of the Amazon being the lungs of the world or the oceans being in danger of becoming so acidic that sea shells wont be able to form.

I prefer the idea of science being a means of understanding things better so that all humanity might benefit rather than a political tool to promote irrational fear.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 11 September 2022 4:45:23 AM
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Dear mhaze,

You replied: "But if I did "meaningful" would be greater than 11 degrees centigrade."

Enough said really.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 12 September 2022 10:35:59 AM
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"Enough said really."

Well that was cryptic.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 12 September 2022 12:29:41 PM
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