The two states created, Israel and Palestine, will be side by side, and will probably maintain the hatred that many Muslims and Jews feel for each other. The conception of a Palestinian state includes the proviso that the Palestinian state should have limited armed capability so that it could not attack Israel. If a divorced couple were forced to live in the same house side by side the hate which led to the divorce would probably be preserved.

However, the hate is not pervasive nor is it necessarily permanent. Jews have lived and prospered in the Arab world. The great Jewish philosopher, Moses Maimonides, thrived in the Muslim world after escaping Almohad persecution in Muslim Spain. In spite of great persecutions in the Christian world Jews have also lived and prospered there. The great Jewish scientist, Albert Einstein, thrived in the Christian world after escaping Nazi persecution in Christian Europe.

The solution is for Israel to become a democratic state. A democratic state must have equality in law among its citizens. Any state based on a particular religion or ethnicity cannot also be democratic. The definition of democracy has changed through history. Ancient Athens which excluded women, slaves and foreigners (a foreigner in Athenian terms might be one whose family had lived in Athens for generations but whose ancestors had a non-Athenian origin) from the vote was not a democracy in modern terms. A democratic state cannot allow slavery as the US did before the Civil War. A democratic state must have separation of religion and state. It must not favour nor denigrate any religion or the sect of any religion that follows the law. A democratic state must have a public school system which does not separate students by ideology, race or religion. While US schools were segregated by race the US was not a democratic country. Students in a democratic, integrated school system can grow up together, learn together and discuss their differences. When they reach adulthood they can work together and marry each other if they choose.

Effectively what you are saying is the Democracy is about treating people as equal in law. The problem for Israel has been that Judaism, (in common with most religions) is a diverse constelation of different sects all with strongly held beliefs. Thus Haredi Jews could be regarded as operating as a state within a state. One could argue that as part of the Holocaust heritage they have been given a favoured status within Israel - many of the men are full time scholars and largely exempt from conscription.
Thus the problem is not merely about treating Arabs equally it is also about treating the Jews equally - it is hard to imagine that Israel will be able to reach that point.
I suspect that this is a problem without a solution.

I can't say that I care, but I find it amusing that some anonymous old codger on OLO pontificates on something that some of the best brains in the world haven't been able to solve in all the time Israel has been a state.

The basic issue to resolve this conflict is return.

Palestinians are dispossessed.

Even with a series of brokered peace talks there has
been no real progress towards implementing either a
two state solution or a democratic state in Israel.

Israel authorities expropriate Palestinian land and
carry out home demolitions on a regular basis most
commonly to expand existing settlements and build new
ones.

Checkpoints and Israel's Separation Wall further hinders
Palestinian freedom of movement.

Israel is totally in control of the Palestinian territories
and the fact of total Israeli control of 100 percent of
Palestine is precisely and fundamentally why you can't and
won't have a resolution to this conflict unless things
change.

ttbn,
This is a discussion forum.

Is Mise

Well, get discussing instead of just grunting at me.