"Every body that looks into nuclear concludes that it's too expensive."

Really? French nuclear costs about a third as much as German erratic.

-- the cost of running it may differ, AUSTRALIAN studies on the cost of BUILDING it have decided it's too expensive

https://energycentral.com/c/ec/germany-solar-and-wind-triple-cost-france%E2%80%99s-nuclear-and-will-last-half-long

-- A brief glance makes the bias of that source clear

And produses a tenth of the CO2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC_BCz0pzMw

"The thing with 'erratic' sources is that you hook into more than one. Solar AND wind AND tidal AND batteries."

Yes, and that means dollars and dollars and dollars, plus infrastructure, plus power regulating hardware and software, plus transmission infrastructure, plus at least half the generating capacity from gas fired power, which sits idle for much of the time. And everything needs to be maintained.

-- Everything needs to be maintained. We don't maintain coal power plants? LOL! Solar and wind are the CHEAPEST ways to make power, today

Hey, but you don't have to take my word for it. You can experience the mess from the erratic energy zealots first hand if that is your preference.

-- I've been to Germany. The lights were always on. I've also been to SA. You are an idiot

Christ this website is ridiculous. I can't have two exclamation points. Snowflakes

"You are an idiot"

Maybe, but at least I don't have the conceit to call myself The voice of reason. Would you like to have a go at doing a costing for 24/7 erratic energy? You can start with six to eight times the generating capacity of wind/solar. That alone is five time the cost of coal. Then you add batteries, transmission and control infrastructure, and backup gas fired power generation.

Go on VOR, take some time out from insulting people and have a go at some thinking.

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Recent announcement. The consumer is expected to pay the 13 Billion, yes that is Billion, that it is going to cost for transmission lines to get new wind & solar unreliable power to the grid from their scattered sights.

We know we have to pick up the cost involved in transforming their DC to AC current, & the cost of stand by generators for every drop in wind, but why the hell should we pick up the cost of getting their unreliable power to market.If someone wants to sell something it is up to them to bear the cost of getting it to market.

Incidentally if wind has been supplying most of Germany's power & french nuclear the rest, why the hell were they using 45% gas power generation, along with a couple of nuclear, & a few coal power?

Useful idiots are so obvious around here.