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The Climate Wars Start Now !

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The Socialists' Bill was described today as 'an economic precipice' - with all the lemmings rushing over it, presumably. On what used to be the non-Socialist side, only Matt Canavan and Alex Antic realise that net zero means net poverty for Australia; the rest of the Opposition, including its leader, should cross the floor and stay there, for all the use they are to the country.

The cost of mining will sky rocket at a time when exports of coal and gas (43% of our exports) have risen by 270% over last year. How spectacularly stupid are the Socialists (and a hell of lot of the similar sorts in the Coalition)! The clowns don't seem to know what supports our standard of living.

All this stupidity is supported by the media, of course; but more mind-boggling is the cheering on from major business bodies, like the Business Council, the Australian Industry Group, the Australian Energy Council, and The Australian Institute of Company Directors.

Australia has been well and truly rooted by the very people elected and paid to look after it.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 8 August 2022 7:10:53 PM
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"Australia has been well and truly rooted by the very people elected and paid to look after it."

True, but the liberals are gone now. Labor are sadly not socialists, but at least they are adults
Posted by The voice of reason, Monday, 8 August 2022 7:16:07 PM
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Not happy enough increasing the cost of energy with insane and totally unreachable emission targets, the Super Socialists now want to put high maintenance (admitted by Bowen) ugly wind turbines in the sea, off Victoria.

Not only do these short-lived, high-maintenance contraptions provide (weather permitting) power that is more expensive than that from the land-based monstrosities, they do it dearer than fossil fuels.

Without billions of taxpayer dollars in subsidies, not even the Silly Socialists would consider them. Renewable energy is really weather-dependent, unreliable energy, and bloody expensive; and the main reason for the UK's 13% inflation, according to economists. There is not much that happens in modern life without energy, electricity, that Stumblebum Albanese wants to make even more costly.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 8 August 2022 8:35:20 PM
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Dear Bazz,

Great you have another horse to flog otherwise you would be doing a weekly post about Muslims doubling their representation in parliament.

You keep doing you old boy.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 8 August 2022 9:24:44 PM
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Bazz,
I presume the emissions from generating electricity would be attributable to the electricity generating companies rather than those who use the electricity.

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ttbn,
I'm curious: what's your definition of "Socialists"? I ask because this government doesn't look socialist to me!

You do seem to be living in the past: you've failed to notice how fast the cost of renewables has fallen. Five years ago I'd've agreed with you about offshore wind, but the cost of that has plummeted faster than anything else.

And do you know the difference between economists and conspiracy bloggers? I know incompetence is rife among economists, but I doubt any of them would make a claim as utterly ridiculous as calling renewable energy "the main reason for the UK's 13% inflation". They've been investing in renewable energy longer than our state, but the inflations's a recent thing. It's generally believe to be a result of the combination of Brexit, the high fossil fuel prices due to the Ukraine war, and to a lesser extent the new Covid variants.
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 8 August 2022 9:47:30 PM
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ttbn, yes the whole thing is so typical;
The politicians will with enthusiasm draw up laws with the help of
lawyers to decide what everyone will have to do to show their
compliance. The poor suckers who will have to fill in the statdecs
to show their compliance will have no idea how to measure it all.
Then the politicians will demand the engineering people will have to
design equipment to do the job, make it and then sell it to us.
I can see a big market for a methane and co2 measuring device that
you plug into the rear end of a sheep and a cow and it transmits by
wireless to the farmers computer the daily production.
OH WOW, that is where Albo's 640,000 jobs will come from !
Albo is not stupid after all, he is a genius !
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 8 August 2022 10:39:07 PM
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