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The Climate Wars Start Now !

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"Generally I'd rather have faith in human beings ability to both adapt, and creative ingenuity to solve problems or find ways of doing things better, because I believe the human race is capable of it, not poor policies, no forward thinking and totalitarianism."

hear, hear AC, I couldn't agree more.

There is a place for government, but too many forget we live in a society and not an economy, the economy serves society, not the other way around. You will hear politicians refer to the economy 100 times to every time they mention society.

You might like this, what a rather philosophical indigenous bloke said to me just the other day; "You know Paul what's wrong with the World...too many 'FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS'...have I got the latest Iphone, car, shoes, whose pissing me off, its all a problem....for me it only where can I get me next feed, that's it!" Seems true, do you agree.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 9:13:14 AM
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Looks like coaxing us into plant based meat isn't good enough for them.
Now they want us all eating house crickets.
Check the ingredients of what you buy,
'Acheta' means 'House Cricket'

http://efsa.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.2903/j.efsa.2022.7258

I told you all, they'll just keep shifting the goalposts...
- And I'm told it's in foods at Woolies and Coles, but can't yet verify it.

Meanwhile...

UK Worker Shortage Leaves £60 Million of Food to Rot in Fields
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-15/uk-worker-shortage-leaves-60-million-of-food-to-rot-in-fields#xj4y7vzkg
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 4:46:40 PM
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Edible insects
A roadmap for the strategic growth of an emerging Australian industry

The Vision
To advance an inclusive, viable and sustainable Australian edible insect industry that supports the global market by forging new collaborations, sharing knowledge, delivering innovative processes and offering delicious Australian-branded insect products.
http://research.csiro.au/edibleinsects/wp-content/uploads/sites/347/2021/04/CSIRO-Edible-Insect-Roadmap.pdf

In 2020, Australia imported $35.9M in Water, becoming the 19th largest importer of Water in the world.
In 2020, Australia exported $4.11M in Water, making it the 47th largest exporter of Water in the world.
http://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-product/water/reporter/aus

Australia’s water footprint study shows agricultural exports cost more than they’re worth
http://www.vu.edu.au/about-vu/news-events/news/australia-s-water-footprint-study-shows-agricultural-exports-cost-more-than-they-re-worth

Australia has a very small population density (rank 103) and a massive coastline.
Why are we as a so-called independent sovereign nation even considering reducing ourselves to eating insects because the rest of the world is overpopulated?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_density
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/27/whats-the-beef-with-cows-and-the-climate-crisis

FutureFeed
Feeding livestock a seaweed supplement called FutureFeed could simultaneously help to secure global food security and fight climate change by reducing powerful greenhouse gas emissions.
http://www.csiro.au/en/research/animals/livestock/futurefeed

Meat and Livestock Australia
Carbon Neutral 2030
The Australian red meat industry has set a target to be carbon neutral by 2030 (CN30). This means that by 2030, Australian beef, lamb and goat production, including lot feeding and meat processing, aim to make no net release of greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions into the atmosphere.
http://www.mla.com.au/research-and-development/Environment-sustainability/carbon-neutral-2030-rd/

I can see a pattern here, in future the rich will eat T-Bone and Porterhouse, and the poor will eat crickets, grubs and mealworms.
If this is what the future looks like then why are we importing more people when the poorest of our nation will soon be expected to live off insects.
Why should we share if that's what it's all going to come down to, and we apparently don't have enough water for ourselves already?

Hate to do this to you Paul, but your the Greens supporter.
What do you have to say about all this?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 25 August 2022 12:37:04 AM
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Hi AC,

I suppose the only obstacle to the consumption of insects by humans is the "aversion factor". AS for their food value and efficiency of production they would easily out strip large meat animals, pigs, cattle, sheep etc.

I find this interesting; The cockroach is your friend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ZtsTXELBM
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 25 August 2022 5:24:39 AM
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I finished reading Ian Plimer's Green Murder and I cannot see how
it leaves much room for anyone to argue that Global Warming as preached
is real. We have a real problem with people's inability to see how
stupid people are if they think they can control the climate.

I guess that the next parliamentary session will have the stupid
people introducing regulations on cow and sheep farts and a multitude
of other ridiculous paramaters.
Will they introduce petrol rationing ? That could really control co2
emissions directly.

Farmers will have to buy indulgences not from the Pope, but from
the Gnomes of Zurich to offset their cow & sheep farts.

Where are you Martin Luther when we need you ?

IT IS THE SUN STUPID !
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 28 August 2022 1:20:18 AM
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So who's up for a tasty protein bar made from black soldier flies?
If not right now, then you will be when you're hungry enough.
- That's their plan -
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 28 August 2022 4:57:57 AM
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