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The Chalmers Report

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"I doubt that you can actually provide an example of a 12yr old with no prior record being jailed for stealing a chocolate bar."

It's a well known case that literally happened LOL!

Christ this is a snowflake forum. I can post with two exclamation points.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/prison-is-no-place-for-a-child-australia-to-discuss-raising-the-age-of-criminal-responsibility/rnh5ukttg

"Note also that deaths in custody for non-aboriginals are about the same % as for aboriginals."

"In 2020–21 there were 82 deaths in custody, 31 fewer than in 2019–20. The total included 15 Indigenous deaths and 67 non-Indigenous deaths."

https://www.aic.gov.au/media-centre/news/new-deaths-custody-report-released-0

So your claim is that 20% of Australians are indigenous? LOL!!
Posted by The voice of reason, Monday, 1 August 2022 11:17:23 AM
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Hi TVR,

"Going into a store without security assuming you are a thief?" I have to agree with that, whenever my wife and I, my wife being a brown skin Maori, visit dress shops, she seems often to get extra "customer service". I recall once in Bondi Junction Sydney, the wife was browsing through a rack at the front door of a shop. The "Karen" at the back couldn't run fast enough to get to the door to offer the wife "customer service". I had noticed a white woman in the shop browsing, but Karen didn't make a move on her, only on my wife.

p/s Me being an old white guy, and never suspected, should have slipped into the shop and knocked off Karen's mobile phone while she was offering all that wonderful "customer service" to the cheese and kisses.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 1 August 2022 11:39:34 AM
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VOR,

Thanks for proving that there are more non-indigenous deaths in custody than indigenous deaths in custody. Also, don't lie or put words in my mouth. The prison population is close to 20% indigenous not the entire population of the country.

You still haven't been able to provide an example of a 12yr old with no prior record being jailed for stealing a chocolate bar.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 1 August 2022 1:28:45 PM
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"Thanks for proving that there are more non-indigenous deaths in custody than indigenous deaths in custody. Also, don't lie or put words in my mouth. The prison population is close to 20% indigenous not the entire population of the country."

The raw number is more, but the indigenous is 3.3% of the population, so they are locked up more, per capita. Are you just thick? 20% indigenous? then my point is made, don't you think?

"You still haven't been able to provide an example of a 12yr old with no prior record being jailed for stealing a chocolate bar."

I don't store a link to everything I ever read and cross index it to placate crazed boomers on the internet.
Posted by The voice of reason, Monday, 1 August 2022 1:31:28 PM
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VOR,

Are you stupid? If your point was that the proportion of deaths in custody is the same per race, then it has been made. Which was my point. If the proportion of prisoners per population is higher for aboriginals then that does not contradict my point.

The point that domestic and other violence is much higher (up to 30x) higher in aboriginal communities may help to explain this.

I see that you snowflakes have a problem with memory but considering the irrelevant bollocks you have posted I don't believe you ever saw anything about a 12 year without a record being jailed.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 1 August 2022 2:33:30 PM
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"Are you stupid? If your point was that the proportion of deaths in custody is the same per race, then it has been made. Which was my point. If the proportion of prisoners per population is higher for aboriginals then that does not contradict my point.

The point that domestic and other violence is much higher (up to 30x) higher in aboriginal communities may help to explain this."

I see you are an idiot. I proved the rate of aboriginals is much higher in fact. The rate of policing of Aboriginals is much higher but given our society keeps aboriginals in poverty, I'd expect more crime as a result.

I don't see how DV rates relate to property crime or people going to prison. You are grasping at straws. I think this is my last allowed post for the day so let me finish by saying, stop being a racist
Posted by The voice of reason, Monday, 1 August 2022 2:42:25 PM
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