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Power prices under Labor.

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This war didn't start in February, it started in 2014.
Putin, didn't start it, he's trying to put an end to it.
Ukraine and it's nationalist neo-nazi's have it coming in my opinion.
- And the blood is on Victoria Nulands hands more than anyone elses.

I don't support trade and economic wars.
Finally the west will have to pay a price for its stupidity.
Trying to make war with nuclear armed members of the UN security council, are you kidding me?

It's one thing to go after smaller countries, but another to go after nuclear armed ones.
The US is now grovelling with it's tail between it's legs to Maduro to get Venezeulan oil after making them eat dogs and cats.
It even stole some oil from Yemen recently that's how desperate it is.
- And like that situation isn't the pot calling the kettle black arming the Saudi's to genocide the Yemenis.

I'm saddened it's come to this and all the loss of innocents,
We all have to pay for Americas stupidity now.

Here, have a done a women's empowerment.
http://youtu.be/KnHEk1VAyjk
Ukraine Crisis: Russian spokeman's fiery response to Sky News question
http://youtu.be/KnHEk1VAyjk

I may not be too good with economic issues but I'll give you a good run for your money on this.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 3:28:04 AM
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* Have a dose of women's empowerment, I meant.

Trying to keep Iran down, trying to keep Venezuela down, now going after Russia.
It's clear the West is in decline and trying to save it's dying petrodollar.
It doesn't export anything else except scrap metal and war.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 3:34:06 AM
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Canem,
1. When I was in high school, we were taught electronegativity was the attraction an atom has for its, and other, electrons. They said the same when I was at uni. So if you disagree, then I suggest you post what you think it is. Then go check: ITYF you're the one whose definition is out of step with the rest of the world.

Excluding the noble gases (which have a very strong attraction to their own electrons but not to others) the top rightmost element is fluorine, which has the highest electronegativity. Oxygen has the second highest, while nitrogen and chlorine are joint third highest. Caesium has the lowest electronegativity of all the elements with stable isotopes.

Answer1- Anyway one battery electrode comes from the left of the periodic table and one from the right according to Donald Sadoway. This is based on the Pauli Exclusion Principle and Electron Energy Levels and the standard number of chemical bonds by column of the periodic table eg. Li(+), Na(+), O(2-)

2. Our abilities with nuclear processes are very limited. We aren't able to put energy in and get it back on demand, which is what people usually take "energy storage" to mean.

Answer 2- It's possible to create Plutonium Rod's- as I understand- by bombarding Uranium with Helium Nuclei or similar and then concentrating the Plutonium in a Mass Spectrometer to form Plutonium Metal Ingots- fairly established technique. This can then be used in a TEG generator. This could be powered by Wind and Solar and hence would be a form of extremely dense battery storage- not sure of the efficiency. But as Aiden is no doubt aware there are three types of emissions to consider- alpha, beta, gamma- (Pu is an alpha source from memory-) as well as the random breakdown path- so there's likely to be problematic waste products.

Nuclear binding energy has a lot of potential as a "stable" storage medium- putting energy in (creating heavy elements using nuclei bombardment) and getting it back- but not on demand (in a TEG)
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 5:13:06 AM
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3. It depends on the application. For cars the advantage of batteries is that an engine (which is rather heavy) is not needed.

Answer 3-

According to sites below- the Tesla engine weighs about 100 kg including the transmission/ Tesla Model Y features a 75-kWh lithium-ion battery with 4416 cells. So, it weighs 1168 lbs (530 kg). According to sites below an ICE V6 weighs 150- 225 kgs without the transmission and the most common size of a 2010 sedan tank is 18.5 gallons= 80L~ 80 kgs.
http://www.terasolartisans.com/john/notes-of-a-writers/how-much-does-a-tesla-engine-weight/
http://themotordigest.com/how-much-do-tesla-batteries-weigh/
http://mechanicbase.com/engine/car-engine-weight/
http://itstillruns.com/average-size-automobile-gas-tank-6787985.html

4. Development is going to take some time, but it is thought supercapacitors will eventually become competitive with batteries.

Answer 4- I doubt it- there seem to be limitations of physics here. Please provide better evidence here for your claims. As I've previously provided documentation from wikipedia there are orders of magnitude differences with gasoline here.

5. Green hydrocarbons are a long term solution. In another forty years they'll probably be the dominant fuel source for short haul aircraft. But nobody is suggesting immediately replacing the entire oil industry with synthetic hydrocarbons. Obviously we go tor the low hanging fruit first. Your "increased world poverty" claim is nothing more than a strawman.

Answer 5- At least Aiden admits "Green hydrocarbons are a long term solution".

6. It's not one group of people creating solutions and another group creating problems - often the same people do both. And where people aren't creating solutions, often it's because they're denied the opportunity to.

Answer6- I didn't say that the people creating solutions in one context weren't creating problems in another- but knowledgeable people make less mistakes. The comment "they're denied the opportunity to" sounds like communism.

Comment-

Obviously the problem wouldn't be as big if there were fewer people, but the undesirable outputs would still be there. A lower population is no substitute for valuing the environment far more highly.

Answer- At least Aiden agrees "the problem wouldn't be as big if there were fewer people".
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 5:14:26 AM
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Got this this morning;

The process for extracting lithium from its ore is extremely energy intensive.
Lithium is around 1% of its orebody. 100 tonnes of ore has to be mined to get one tonne of lithium. In order to get the mining fleet to the orebody an pit surrounding the orebody has to be excavated. This involves stripping more dirt. Common stripping ratios are between 8-12 times the size of the orebody.
So all up around 1000 tonnes of dirt has to be mined to get one tonne of lithium.
If anyone thinks this is good for the environment or even economical they are kidding themselves.
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 11:02:38 AM
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Indyvidual- Kudos.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 1:14:54 PM
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