With Electrical power prices slated to increase dramatically in the near future largely due to the growth of renewable energy and the closure of cheap coal-fired generation, I wonder how far Labor intends to go before voters revolt against the resulting crash in living standards?

Can't you discuss the issue without resorting to lies, Shadow?

Electrical power prices are slated to increase dramatically in the near future because of rising gas and coal prices. The growth of renewable energy is needed to bring prices down.

Thanks for the thread ShadowMinister- very important issue.
Sadly people may be living in bed next winter due to high heating costs- electricity prices are already increasing in some states. I've seen some with huge bills. I liked the principle behind the Labor insulation scheme- but some companies mainly startups appear to have cut corners- these companies should have been prosecuted. I've heard stories of tradies putting their foot in the door of aged people in rentals and "installing insulation by force" and then acting in an intimidating manner when they refuse to pay the difference.

We don't have an energy problem but an energy storage problem..

Prices will head north, and would have done so had the Coalition been returned, because they also championed this zero emissions rubbish.

Net Zero is an utterly destructive policy that is only possible in the imaginations of globalist climate enthusiasts. Wind and sun, even heavily subsidised as it is (at our cost) will never provide cheap power, nor will it provide reliable power.

Apart from being the most left wing Liberal party in Australia's history, for six years under Morrison, the Liberals failed to explain the importance of reliable energy to the economy both for domestic power and for export revenues. Instead, they mimicked Labor, and lost. There is going to be a lot more lost by all of us over the next three, possibly six, years. And the situation would have been the same if the Coalition had survived. A Dutton-led and rejuvenated Liberal party, minus all the lefties now thankfully gone - plus Simon Birmingham when his time comes next election (it will be vital for us to pick our Senators individually below the line; bugger what the party wants) is our only hope for the future.

shadowminister,

Up to your deeply dishonest postings once more I see. The energy regulator says these rises are due to the increase in prices for coal and particularly gas. This is down to the abject failure of the Coalition government to insist on a proportion of our gas is reserved for domestic use at a capped price. This is what they did in the US, one of the most avowedly capitalist nations in the world. Alternatively we could have gone with a decent mining tax which would have given us a fund to subsidise natural gas and coal prices to Australians.

All of which you would have protested vehemently you little Gina muppet.

It might be an interesting exercise to see if there is even enough concentrated lithium reserves in the world to supply the energy storage needs- yes there is lithium in seawater as I remember- but is it easy to extract- will it force up the price of electricity- it seems the answer must be yes- at least temporarily. And it seems an awful waste to throw away the billion cars on unproven infrastructure- perhaps certain groups want to get us to cross the bridge- and then blow it up behind us.

If Greenies want electrical cars and solar power stations they should provide the evidence and allow the issue to be debated.

I wouldn't want an electric car- interesting technology but not practical in my view.

Perhaps atmospheric CO2 mining and a high temp reactor or biodiesel will be more successful and will let us keep most of the infrastructure that has been developed over the last one hundred years. Though biodiesel will probably push up world food prices. Maybe I can grow algae for petroleum in the back shed- squash it for the oil- mix in with some lye and presto- *BIODIESEL*.

I'm going to need a bigger shed.

Maybe we could grow fast growing bamboo for wood gas...