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Murder In America

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o sung wu

There are three poisons in life, GREED, HATE and IGNORANCE. Unfortunately I see all three in you, GREED; your desire to maintain the World as yours, HATE; your loathing of those different, IGNORANCE; not knowing what is in others.

When you hold these three poisons in your heart and mind it is you who suffers to the greater extent because of them, and not others. You are not alone in this, we all share these same poisons throughout our lives, but the secret is to recognise the negativity and pain they cause, and to overcome them, not an easy task. This is something I have learnt from Buddhism.

I can learn from Christianity, I can learn from Buddhism, I can learn from people, even you. To say; "are you a believer or disbeliever" is not an absolute when it comes to any religion. You can make use of religious concepts contained therein, and at the same time not believe in certain aspects of that religion. I can believe in "love your neighbour" and at the same time not believe in "God", they are not interdependent on each other, they are singly separate concepts.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 4 June 2022 7:17:40 PM
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Thank you PAUL1405...

I trust this is a case of 'here endeth the lesson' - that which you've been preaching to me PAULIE ad infinitum. I'm sorry but its becoming highly nauseating and I'm running short of Band Aids for my bleeding ears.

Greed, Hate and Ignorance is a heavy load for an 80 year old to bear you know? So can I assume you're prepared to step-up and at do the Christian; Buddhist, and Atheist thing, and at least, give me some financial succour in place of you wise counsel. Thus lightening the burden, even just a little for this doddering ol' man?

And pray tell us PAULIE, when's the second riveting chapter of PAULIE'S dictum on rendering guns permanently inoperably. So far your processes have been breathtaking and oh so exciting.
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 4 June 2022 10:15:18 PM
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Paul1405 said-

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9825#334486

CM made a good point;

"several critical factors in Latin American cities that contribute to increased gun violence, including economic deprivation, residential instability, family disruption, absence from school, the population’s age structure, and alcohol consumption."

When you add guns to that mix of social depravity and other factors, then there can only be one outcome, a mass number of shootings.

Without a gun, generally some sort of automatic weapon it's very difficult to shoot large numbers of people/children, in fact its impossible.

Answer- Actually it wasn't "CM" that made the point. The text was from Indyvidual's link.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

The reason I quoted the text in the link was because it indicated that having a firearm doesn't necessarily correlate with gun violence- but that there are other correlating statistical factors to violence- presumeably not only gun violence. Some of them appear to be related to the culture of "freedom" and Liberalism.

There are many cases of economic scarcity in communities that don't translate into sociopathic behavior- but pull the community together to help each other. The sinking boat phenomena.

If the young aren't integrated with the old it can lead to pathological societies without direction or meaning.
Family structures provide duties and benefits- a two sided coin- in a family one person's benefit is another's duty- but there has been a recent phenomena in certain circles of denigrating family- no surprise when the structure of the community falls apart.

When large numbers of people arrive from outside the traditional community structure the community never adapts to the changes and breaks down- certain philosophies see this is beneficial- others denigrate those, especially the old, that warn against change as backward. As John Howard said "we (Australian's should) choose who comes to Australia".

In Population Theory they talk of doubling and the onset of chaos is related to the rate of reproduction.

There are other forms of complexity that can lead to the instability of society
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 5 June 2022 1:42:15 AM
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It seems that Communism and Socialism say they want chaos in certain societies. As has been said in Communist playbooks subverting societies takes 4 or 5 stages some of them contradictory.

In history societies were often an extension of the family- or a form of extension.

Thomas Sowell said that black conditions had improved from the 1940's before the Liberal counter culture of the 1960's (minimum wage) and have since declined. Obviously Sowell's comments need to be taken in a mature context.

Ayn Rand implied that Communists and Socialists (Looters and Moochers) create conditions of instability and scarcity and then say "we have to help the poor"- playing both sides against the middle- whereas those that create conditions of excess productivity are denigrated as greedy.

There are people that say that on the scale of a classroom it's better to have a knife than a gun because of the time it takes to aim- note the Trade Centre Terrorists had utility knives
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 5 June 2022 1:42:50 AM
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o sung wu,

No problem, I will leave you to your personal deprivation, after all you did start this conversation with me, not I with you.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 5 June 2022 6:05:52 AM
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Hey Is Mise
"Gawd, it’s the Jews again!!"

Zelensky, Hunter Biden — and Their Sugar Daddy, Kolomoisky
http://youtu.be/fUPKZkqXfZI

Kolomoisky has a sister named Larissa Chertok
http://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/oligarch-toys-planes-palaces-other-posh-possessions.html

"Igor Kolomoisky shares Damir Akhmetov’s admiration for Lake Geneva. However, Kolomoisky’s lakeside villa — registered under the name of his sister Larisa Chertok — is much smaller."

Apparently she is the sister of Gregoire Chertok who works for Rothschild.
http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/b14zbl0qxk6g6j/grgoire-chertok-plays-banker-to-frances-elite
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 5 June 2022 9:51:31 AM
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