Paul,
Tijuana, Mexico, has a murder rate of 138 per 100,000 residents the closest US city is St Louis with 60/100,000.
Mexico has strict gun laws.
How do you explain why the country with the less strict laws has a much lower murder rate?

cont

Interesting, on my first night and being a Paul, it was surprising that the discussion was centred about St Paul, I was asked what I thought of Paul the Apostle...."Soul of Tarsus, in my opinion the true founder of Christianity, I went on for five minutes as to why I believed that. There were those that were not in agreement, and there were those who could see merit, if not belief, in my argument. Last Wednesday we had a lively discussion about the 'Holy Spirit', I said for some he's like Casper the Ghost with his head on fire. The discussion was lively, and went into overtime. I am gaining so much from this. Going to a Baptists gathering the other Thursday, listening to a talk from a now Christian ex drug and alcohol addict, he laid it all bare for 45 minutes. Well worth the admission price of a gold coin. I had a similar discussion with a now Buddhist nun in her forties some time back, her failings with drugs and alcohol and then finding her way in life about 15 years back through Buddhism. Both are now totally worthy human beings, one finding their path through Christianity, the other through Buddhism. Different ways but the same outcome.

Applying your logic Issy, the tiny Tasmanian town of Port Arthur had a murder rate of 14,000 per 100,000 residents, before John Howard's gun laws, the closest Mexican town Tijuana has only 138 per 100,000 and Tijuana is not in a scrub bull roar of Port Arthur. Since John Howard's gun laws were introduced the murder rate in Port Arthur has dropped to zero per 100,000. Could it have anything to do with the fact the crazed gun nut job Martin Bryant and folk hero of gunnies is locked up?

When is your mob the SSAA going to apologise for the active part their members played in the murders of the children Jack and Jennifer Edwards at the hands of a crazy gun nut and member of the SSAA John Edwards. If John Edwards was a member, you may have many more like minded people in the organisation. How many do you think, you just don't know do you.

Paul.
Argumentum ad absurdam.

Interesting PAUL1405...

You attend Bible Studies on Wednesday nights , though you're not a believer, you attend, because you wish to find answers in something, in which you don't believe? Elements of the Christian Doctrine? That's you ol' son, conflicted in fact and incongruous in life. You're a true intellect aren't you!

You say I'm too old to physically defend myself, albeit I'm such a violent individual. That's true. There again, being so violent and after eighteen months in Malaysia (Thai/Malay Border against the Communist Terrorists) and twelve months in South Vietnam, and 32 years in the police force. perhaps you too might well need the aid of a cane to get about. I don't, as I'm in a wheelchair most times, other than when I'm at home.

I dwell on the past so claims his Eminence, PAUL1405 purveyor of all ecclesiastical knowledge, much of which he doesn't believe. Maybe. Hindsight and experience is a great teacher. Without the past, however will we learn to prepare us for the future?

I've got to admit PAUL1405, I feel utterly delighted even gratified to think I dwell so intently in your innermost thoughts, that you'd even bother to discuss me with your retired Psychologist playmate to diagnose? I believe DSM V is considered to be the benchmark in this country. But in case you're wondering just how violent, unhinged and dangerous I might be; may I refer you to the; Daniel McNAUGHTEN Judgement of 1843, where a series of rules if you like, quantify in law, insanity in our (British) Jurisprudence here in Oz.

I also believe I owe you a sincere vote of thanks PAUL1405. I've badly underestimated you. But nevertheless, I'm so surprised and happy, that In your own quiet time, all your thoughts, once more, return to me, and my continued welfare. I didn't know you cared? Still and all, despite this late demonstration of affection, I still think you were a very naughty boy to dodge your National Service. Once upon a time, you'd be consigned to the naughty corner to allow you to reflect upon that naughtiness.

Paul,
If you have any information that SSAA members played an active part in murder then you have a duty to report such behaviour.
If you don’t then you should apologise for casting such a slur.

I suggest that you read the Coroner’s report on the Edwards murders and stop contradicting that law officer’s legal findings.