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Thanks Banjo P., and Steele.

Loved the joke.

Who knows what the future holds.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 10:36:34 AM
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Putin’s ‘Chief Propagandist’ Calls For Nuke Attack On UK; MI5 Warns Against Saboteurs Ukraine War
http://youtu.be/JSJOvCkHCQU

Russia Shoots Down Ukrainian Bombers l US Says "Can't Fold To Bully" As Putin Warns Hostile Nations
http://youtu.be/tsROseu97jY
>>Representative Jason Crow, a military veteran and House Intelligence Committee member, said it was essential the Ukrainians "have what they need to win"
He said the US was not interested in stalemates, or "going back to the status quo"<<

They are going to keep sending arms to Ukraine, pretending the west is staying out of it, and keep pushing and pushing until Russia nukes something.

What other outcome is there?

Unless Russia pulls out and shuts its doors to the world like China once did?

And even then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

She is the former CEO of the Center for a New American Security, (CNAS), serving from January 2018 until early 2019, and is also the Brady-Johnson Distinguished Practitioner in Grand Strategy at Yale University, and a member of the board of the National Endowment for Democracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_Democracy

The National Endownment for Democracy has been accused by political activists, groups and governments around the world of being an agency for regime change and/or an instrument of US foreign policy following the particular ideologies and interests of the United States government. The history of the organization shows that it was created to take over some activities previously performed by the CIA.

They will keep pushing and pushing until someone nukes someone.

Nuclear War Simulation - NATO vs RUSSIA
Total Global Casualties - 548,739,330
http://youtu.be/dxJHecyYBno

I think that's a huge underestimate, because it doesn't take China into account.

I've told you all before my position.
I don't support sanctions which is collective punishment against entire nations.
And I don't support US government overthrowing countries.
That is all, it really needs to stop.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 11:33:34 AM
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Zelensky appeals for truce to free civilians trapped under steel plant
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7725271/ukraines-zelenskiy-appeals-for-truce/

No, if I was Russia I wouldn't make that deal, I'd make a counter offer.

- Unconditional surrender of every man, woman and child in Azovstal. -

All fighters must lay down their weapons and surrender to Russian forces,
- or they themselves will be responsible for the deaths of all men, women, children and elderly taking shelter there.

Surrender and save the save the lives of your wives, children, parents, elderly and injured fighters.

Injured fighters and civilians should receive immediate required medical care.

Then, leftover able fighters must remove all mines, booby traps and everything else they set to kill invading Russian forces.
If any Russian military personnel die during this process of removing all military equipment, then the deal to handover women children and elderly is put in jeopardy.

If successful women, children and elderly should be released back to Ukraine, and the Azov Regiment shall be taken as prisoners of war.

Then after an expected full interrogation by Russian forces, deals should be made for a prisoner exchange, and a full negotiated settlement of the war.

- With everything that's happened since 2014 when the US overthrew the country taken into account and placed on the table for negotiations.

The US needs to stop overthrowing countries, stop sanctioning countries and take responsibility for its own messes.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 5 May 2022 11:43:16 PM
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Surrendering to the Russian army would be less appealing than surrendering to Japan. The allied forces realised that as the Japanese army advanced across Burma.

How do you surrender to a bear? Admiral Makarov just had its status changed to submarine. It can keep Moskva company.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 6 May 2022 9:57:33 PM
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Putin should take off the kids gloves.
Bomb every single bridge and dam on the Dnipro river from Kiev to the Black Sea and cut the western side of the country off from the east.
Then start bombing transmission towers.
- I would -

The sooner we can move to a place of negotiated settlement the better.
The longer this drags on the more people are going to suffer.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 7 May 2022 2:37:18 PM
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Actually, make that all the bridges EXCEPT the one at Kherson and the one at Kozatske.
- Which are in Russian held territory.

Stuff it, as well as that, bomb the 7 bridges across the Dnipro in Kiev as well.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 7 May 2022 2:48:27 PM
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