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Posted by david f, Sunday, 30 January 2022 1:46:56 AM
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Hi Josephus,
My beef is with Christianity and Christians in general. They act high and mighty and beyond reproach but their ideology is flawed. I don't have anything against you personally. Are you saying that I didn't see Margaret Court and a host of other stories all over the world during the pandemic of Christians saying Jesus makes them immune Jesus is the cure? Do you think these people may have by chance spread the virus and done harm to others? Are you saying my observations are wrong? If they can get that wrong.. then they certainly don't own any path to righteousness and salvation. They're wolves in sheeps clothing. My beef is virtue-signalling from Christians who themselves cant tell the difference between harming others and not harming others. - It's good that you can tell the difference, it seems. And there's a difference between harming others outright, and mere words - (though I accept words can cause harm) The only crime I committed was to type words: - I didn't spread covid or infect anyone, or their elderly parents. If you identify as a Christian you should teach the rest of your lot some values and not be hard on me for speaking truth. Sorry to hear the people in your complex care only for themselves. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 30 January 2022 1:58:16 AM
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Hey Canem Malum
"In a sense ideological or religious genocide is very similar to ethnic genocide- depending on the particular case- the ideological genocide that occurred under Mao's china was ten times worse than "The Holocast". Many of the details in the "Russian and Chinese Holocasts" are unknown even today as I understand." I remember hearing stories about the NKVD Headquarters in Kiev under Stalin. Stories of people being tortures, limbs cut off. A whole basement full of blood, bodies and body parts. Stories of peoples guts being cut open, their intestines nailed to a pole, and then whipped and made to run around the pole for amusement until their entire guts is ripped out. Stories of people being killed to be fed to other starving people, with the full knowledge that no other food is coming, and it will be your turn to die and be fed to others tomorrow. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 30 January 2022 2:13:17 AM
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When you teach the kids about the Holocaust Paul, make sure to include all of the facilities included at Aushwitz, if you actually know.
Go do some googling and look that up, then try convincing people its purpose or intention was a death camp. Look at those facts, and the narrative you telling doesn't quite add up. I'm not saying there wasn't hardship and people didn't die in crap conditions. - But America got there months after Germany was in tatters and all the supply lines had been bombed months prior and everyone was starving. Are you going to tell that story? Will you tell the truth or leave that part out? That's why we see the horrible pictures of living skeletons, when the camps were finally liberated. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 30 January 2022 2:21:26 AM
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Thanks for the information AC- horrific. I guess it's harder to find the mass graves for the "Russian and Chinese Holocasts" given the regime continuity. Thanks again.
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 30 January 2022 3:00:37 AM
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Hey Calum Malum,
Horrible stuff, though I can't vouch for the accuracy of these stories, as I wasn't there. Lots of terrible things happen during wars. Take the Yellow House in Albania for example, some of which is known. Apparently during the war in Kosovo in 1999, civilians were abducted and murdered to have their organs harvested and sold on the Black Market. http://thebloodyellowhouse.wordpress.com/ I think the numbers might be higher than reported though. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 30 January 2022 5:17:52 AM
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Summary
In both German churches there were members, including clergy and leading theologians, who openly supported the Nazi regime. With time, anti-Nazi sentiment grew in both Protestant and Catholic church circles, as the Nazi regime exerted greater pressure on them. In turn, the Nazi regime saw a potential for dissent in church criticism of state measures. When a protest statement was read from the pulpits of Confessing churches in March 1935, for example, Nazi authorities reacted forcefully by briefly arresting over 700 pastors. After the 1937 papal encyclical Mit brennender Sorge ("With burning concern") was read from Catholic pulpits, the Gestapo confiscated copies from diocesan offices throughout the country.
The general tactic by the leadership of both Protestant and Catholic churches in Germany was caution with respect to protest and compromise with the Nazi state leadership where possible. There was criticism within both churches of Nazi racialized ideology and notions of "Aryanism," and movements emerged in both churches to defend church members who were considered "non-Aryan" under Nazi racial laws (e.g., Jews who had converted). Yet throughout this period there was virtually no public opposition to antisemitism or any readiness by church leaders to publicly oppose the regime on the issues of antisemitism and state-sanctioned violence against the Jews. There were individual Catholics and Protestants who spoke out on behalf of Jews, and small groups within both churches that became involved in rescue and resistance activities (for example, the White Rose and Herman Maas).
After 1945, the silence of the church leadership and the widespread complicity of "ordinary Christians" compelled leaders of both churches to address issues of guilt and complicity during the Holocaust—a process that continues internationally to this day.
Author(s): United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Washington, DC