Here's the link again:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1288231.stm

"earlier you said the war saved the Jews, through Allied intervention"

Yes that's correct. The gas chambers ran basically right up to the time the allies arrived.

"you claimed it hastens their demise as the war was going badly for Hitler"

Yes that's correct. While Hitler thought he'd win the war, he had no plans to exterminate the Jews. His idea was basically the same as FDR's ie move them out of Europe. It was only when that option was removed that he adopted plan B so-to-speak.

"What's it to be."

Why can't it be both? Try a little nuance. But the war didn't cause the Holocaust. Had that been true the Holocaust would have started in 1939 rather than 1942.

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Foxy,

We've been down this road before. Britain is no more a mixture of races than any other nation in Europe or Asia. Pick any country and go back a millennium or two and you'll find multiple invasions and conquests.

You've also made the mistake of confusing multiculturalism with multicultural, but the difference is for another thread.
Nonetheless, its a mistake to think that British culture was measurably changed by these invasions. Current research shows that, in the main, the invaders didn't impose their culture, but instead adopted that of the natives which remained primarily unchanged over the centuries. I'd venture that the same can be said for most nations over the centuries.

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Canem wrote :"I think certain people such as Paul1405, Foxy bait the conversation in order to score a political point- by discussing the topic the way they've framed it".

You might note that as soon as I start talking about genocide and multi-million murders in Communist countries, Paul runs for cover. You'd find the same thing if I mentioned the Marx was as anti-Semitic as any other German.

The idea is to only talk about those things that make certain groups look bad. For old Trotskyites like Paul, the very notion that the leading mass murders in history are primarily Marxists is too shocking to ponder.

mhaze,

Read the link I gave from the BBc.
Argue with them not me.

Some cultural things happening in Britian currently are in violation of true British Culture. We must look at the basis of ideals - are they based on moral law? The ten commandments the basis of jewish law have been the basis of all functioning societies for 5,000 years; remove them and society fails.
1. Worship and aspire to understand holy Character.
2. Do not become devoted to trivial or ascribe power to things.
3. Do not attribute bad character to the most holy.
4. Keep one day in seven for rest and reflection.
5. Respect and care for your parents.
6. You shall not plot the death of another.
7. You shall not lust for anothers wife.
8. You shal not steal anothers property.
9. You shall not give false testomony of another to destroy their character.
10. You shall not covet others property etc.

"AC, can you expand on that fly by "irrelevant crap" comment. In your opinion did the Holocaust take place, and/or in the numbers generally propagated. Some say no, its all anti Nazi propaganda to make that nice man Hitler look bad."

I don't know, I wasn't there, I wasn't even born yet.
- Suppose I'd start there...

Why is it important?
Why does it even matter?

Plenty of people died in WWII not just Jews
Whats the significance in their supposed story above others?

- There's millions of stories of hardship and tragedy in those war years, many never told.
Why should we want to hear the word 'holocaust' over and over like a broken record?

1. Worship and aspire to understand holy Character.
2. Do not become devoted to trivial or ascribe power to things.
3. Do not attribute bad character to the most holy.
4. Keep one day in seven for rest and reflection.
5. Respect and care for your parents.
6. You shall not plot the death of another.
7. You shall not lust for anothers wife.
8. You shal not steal anothers property.
9. You shall not give false testomony of another to destroy their character.
10. You shall not covet others property etc.

Christians are idiots anyway.
I saw all through the pandemic the idea that God would save them, like they were immune from Covid or if they did catch it, AND DIE that it would be Gods will.
- Praise the Lord -

What I didn't see from Christians an understanding that they too could spread the virus to others and cause harm, even death.

In their minds if they catch Covid and give it to someone else and that someone else dies as a result, then that's God's will too.
- Praise the Lord -

They don't see that they would have caused someones else's death.
So I think they are all mentally retarded, drunk on their own bs.
- And a danger to others -

Funny how they come across so high and mighty with these virtuous rules for others to follow.
How about you follow other peoples rules instead?
Well no, that's because no other rules exist for them, they are beyond reproach.
And to challenge them, would be to challenge God.

How about they learn not to do harm instead?
- Stupid Religions -