Pauliar and Foxy,

Get a dictionary. And don't confuse civilisation with morality they are actually different things and it is entirely possible to be civilized and immoral such as socialist Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, China, NK etc.

The very minimum requirement for civilization is considered arguably to be the written language. Some countries can be more civilized than others which is where morality and the rule of law come in.

Hi Foxy,

I totally agree with your summation of what it means to be civilized. shonkyminister simply wants to justify the horrific behaviour of despots and murderers he admires as being "civilized".

Many tribes of Native Americans on witnessing the barbaric behaviour of the Europeans thought they were uncivilized.

Pauliar, you really are an atrocious liar.

At no point have I condoned the vile behaviour of any extremists such as the Nazis or the Greens.

Happy Hypocrites' Day to all those enjoying a good existence in Australia but condemning it at the same time !

Grace Tame's appallingly childish and churlish attitude and behaviour towards Scott Morrison- on national TV - clearly showed that she was a very poor choice for last year's Australian of The Year. There have been some very puzzling choices in the past, but she would have to be the worst. Let's hope this year’s recipient knows how to conduct himself. Good riddance Grace.

According to ttbn, one of the requirements, possibly the only requirement to be Australian of the Year, is an ability to suck up to ScumO Morrison. Great!