"virtually every stupid idea that is in vogue today has been tried before and proved disastrous" aka ATSIC.
But the usual crowd will ignore that. Completely misunderstand it and completely ignore it.

Foxy laughingly thinks she's linking to balanced reports....one from her ABC, one from SBS, one from the activists at UNSW. Seriously!

Actually the last one has some value. It says most people want a referendum. I do. So that the people, rather than the elite whingers, get a say.

And then when the change goes down in flames, maybe they'll shut up and actually get on with helping the most disadvantaged natives. Nay, who am I kidding....they'll just go on whinging.

Take a good look folks as to who's doing the actual
finger-pointing and whinging on this and other discussions.

Here's some clarity for you:
Foxy,
No, it isn't clarity at all, it's the usual muddying by non-indigenous people who benefit greatly from writing in this manner.

Foxy,

ATSIC was an unmitigated disaster and was disbanded after problems with corruption, embezzlement and incompetent management.

If all the bleeding hearts want a constitutionally based shambles like this having real power they seriously need to think of the dire consequences that are not only possible but likely.

SM, the failure of ATSIC almost 20 years ago should not be a reason to never ever contemplate the establishment of an Aboriginal body of useful purpose today. Would you say the establishment of the United Nations should have never taken place because the League of Nations was such a failure. Learn from past experience and improve.

BTW, much of the ATSIC problems were down to one man.

The proposed new aboriginal body has one major advantage over ATSIC, which should stand it in good stead.

ATSIC was formed by an act of parliament. So when it became clear just how corrupt the body had become, it was possible for the parliament to stop the bleeding by closing it down.

Of course, it took a while and a government with some scruples to do it. Previously, in 1994, when it was clear that corruption was rampant, the then Minister refused to investigate on the basis it was racist to do so. Proving that there is a God, that minister, Robert Tickner, lost his seat in 1996.

But the new body, if it were to ever be constituted, would be beyond the control of parliament and therefore corruption would no longer be a problem.

So from the point of view of the aboriginal industry, a win-win. New jobs and sinecures and no oversight of any consequence. Great for them. For the rest of community, not so much.

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"much of the ATSIC problems were down to one man."

Rubbish - as usual. ATSIC had problems long before Clark got accused of rape. That was just the last straw. Corruption went all the way back to the early 1990s under Loise O'Donoghue.
Its almost as though the very purpose of these bodies is to line the pockets of the aboriginal leadership.