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Young Israelis imprisoned for refusing to serve in the military

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Hi Nathan,

The young lady made her choice. She chose not to
go into the army. And of course that is her right.
It's the same as with Novak Djokovic not wanting
to get vaccinated. With any choice in life there
usually are consequences. She's lived in Israel
long enough to know what the outcomes would be.
And she did refuse multiple times.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 24 January 2022 5:38:22 PM
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Nathan,

How do you intend to "advocate against these types of moves" by the Israeli government? The Israelis themselves, including the girl locked up, who think the same way you do haven’t had much luck in the 73 years since the state of Israel was founded.

How will you "support" those who "advocate for world peace"? Just agreeing with a certain point of view or posting your opinion on the internet won't be of much use. Besides, it is the terror groups regularly attacking Israel who need to desist in their aggression against Israel, which has a right to protect itself. How would you advocate against Hamas, for example, and its backer, Iran, the country that has vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth?

I don't think the young people of Israel are "brainwashed" - apart from the girl in choky for refusing to train, that is. The majority of Israelis are aware that, if they are not trained and prepared militarily, they will be slaughtered by their sworn enemies. It's easy to have fine opinions in the safety of Australia. Israelis don’t have the same luxury
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 24 January 2022 6:06:13 PM
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WGaS?

Dan doesn’t!
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 6:15:20 AM
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Conscription is one of the worst forms of slavery.

There can be no justification for it, not even a justifiable fear of death and destruction.

If a country is worth defending then the people to willingly defend it will be found, but a country that employs such atrocities may not be worthy of being defended and the people it abuses with conscription will join its enemies.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 1:16:47 PM
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Yuyutsu,
‘…will join its enemies”.

Care to tell us how many conscripts went over to the enemy in WWII?
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 2:04:41 PM
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Is Mise,

<<‘…will join its enemies”.>>

This in my view is in the context that younger people are becoming more aware and they are standing firm in terms of their beliefs and not simply taking what a government may throw at them. Rallies for action on climate change are one example.

The teenager in question in this ABC story and other media, is a person advocating for Palestine and their basic rights and freedoms. Whilst I have no problem with that, the Israeli Government would no doubt have a different position. So in essence she is joining an Israeli Government's enemy.

<<Care to tell us how many conscripts went over to the enemy in WWII?>>

We are now living in a very different age and I can tell you if young people were put to mandated military training in Australia for example by the current Government under Scott Morrison, most people would oppose such a move and support his main enemies also, the Labor party, the Greens and independents.
Posted by NathanJ, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 4:06:44 PM
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