New polling coming out shows Anthony Albanese and Labor to win the next Federal election.

Yes, it is out there: http://7news.com.au/politics/federal-politics/newspoll-analysis-signals-strong-labor-win-c-5103129

Yes it's bad news for Scott Morrison, with polling predicting a heavy defeat at the upcoming federal election next year.

The people have spoken. Goodbye Scott Morrison and say hello to Anthony Albanese for PM.

No people haven't voted yet, I understand that, but the polls usually come out right.

To be fair, what could the current Prime Minister do to reverse the situation and turn the polls around in his favour?

Albanese wins, Australia loses.

NathanJ,
>No people haven't voted yet, I understand that, but the polls usually come out right.
But didn't they come out spectacularly wrong last election?

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Is Mise,
Albanese wins, Australia loses... a corrupt and incompetent government.
Australia wins!

It is all about Scomo's terrible [non-]handling of the COVID pandemic, particularly around vaccines and quarantine.

The coalition could still win, but only if they kick him out right now.

Oh good....another unlosable election.

http://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/the-suburban-roundabout-that-signifies-why-labor-lost-the-unlosable-election/news-story/965d13dbd66185fec65c5abc807d38b1

It doesn't much matter who wins....Australia loses.

NathanJ,
Desperate try ! Performance will prove to overcome idealist theory.

Yuyutsu,

<<It is all about Scomo's terrible [non-]handling of the COVID pandemic, particularly around vaccines and quarantine.>>

I agree, along with the rest of your comments.

Aiden,

<<But didn't they come out spectacularly wrong last election?>>

Well that was a different time. COVID-19 was not an issue.

"An opinion poll is a survey, or snapshot, of political opinion. Polls can't predict the future and usually only give an approximate view of what voters thought last weekend."

From Antony Green ABC Election Analyst.

I doubt COVID-19 will be gone by next weekend or the next Federal election, and if the Prime Minister doesn't tidy up his act or gets given the boot then the results look pretty clear.

People will vote according to the Coalition's so so performance in mind when they decide not to chance a guaranteed even worse performing Labor administration.

Well why not.

The US has voted [perhaps] in the most incompetent president ever.

The UK has a now totally addled brained Prime minister & soon a similarly dumb king.

Why shouldn't we have a total dill in the lodge here as well? It seems to be the fashion to go along with ratbag global warming & Covid virus policies.

France & Canada both have effeminate mummies boys & the Germans have gone from a fool to the totally ratbag, why should we be the odd man out.

Having said all the above, I suppose Albanese could only be slightly worse than the so called national cabinet. However if it happens people will want to get the hell out of Victoria very quickly, as there will be little to hold dictator Dan from going full communist.

There are members of the GREENS, who believe it's absolutely necessary to replace ScumO with Albo, I'm not one of those people, who base their politics on the lesser of two evils theory. I agree there is a bit of house keeping that needs doing in Canberra, the place hasn't had a good clean out in 10 years, the rotting garbage is well and truly on the nose. The putrid bag full of Cry Baby Porter and Barnyard Joy needs to be dumped at the tip. Well the third bedroom needs to be converted to a room for the lads from the ICAC, and the abodiginy folks need to move in and tells us what to have for breakfast. And no more letting Dangerous Dan order chow feeds on a Friday night from the Golden Dragon. I also think it might be a good idea if we stop building swimming pools and car parks in Snob Ives, they've got 50 of em already, might build a school down at Unpleasent Valley, where there is no school for those Unpleasent kids, just a jail.

They said; "Cheer up, things could get worse!" So I cheered up, and sure enough things got worse.

The wife, an ALP member and a critic of this Forum, believes Bill Shortarse should make a long overdue return. Look on the bright side, we could have a government led by The Lovely Pauline, Crazy Clive, The Mad Katter and Corny Banana. Ahhhhhh! What a nightmare that would be.

Paul,

I agree that Shorten should run for PM again. His smarmy style and crooked background would be a big plus for the coalition.

As lacking in performance as they are I vote for the Coalition because I know many Labor supporters & judge the Party by them !

Well I'm going to stick my neck out.

I believe that Scott Morrison will return as
our PM. I don't see anybody else coming forward
at present who could beat him - Albo is not a
good choice for Labor.

Just compare the treasurers of the two parties. One has assisted during Covid the other just complained.

Well my two bits worth;
I don't think it will matter too much who wins.
Energy will take control fairly soon.
In the next weeks the brain washed 18 year olds will be registering to vote.
They may tip the vote to the Labour Party on teacher's instructions.
Either way it will not matter. Both parties favour installing more
wind and solar.
As Liddel is to close either in 2022 or 2023 at the latest followed by
Yallorn the sudden onset of load shedding will make whatever
government so unpopular that they will have to announce a reversal of
policy and rush build a couple of Natural Gas power station as a patch
up job while they order two or three nuclear modular stations from Rolls Royce.
This holiday period was enlightening. I have two iridescent green
daughters-in-law one ex teacher one current high school teacher and
they were discussing the next election and various policies.
I just listened for a while and said nothing, but then injected that
they have missed the most important policy Energy !
Wow I thought I must have sworn ! They immediately pounced on me and
ended the discussion and got up and went into the kitchen.

Lesson, greenies are very sensitive to the subject of energy.
Obviously they have realised the policy is fatally flawed but cannot
change their policy publically.
This ties in with other incidents I have noticed without realising
the significance of energy in the coming election.

The polls didn't "come out right" at the last election. You seem to have forgotten that Nathan. Labor lost the 'unloseable' election. However, as the Coalition is going to the polls with the same ridiculous Zero Emissions policy that Labor had - except for the legislation bit - there is no telling what will happen, apart from lots of votes going from the Coalition to the UAP, the Liberal Democrats and One Nation (maybe). We don't have a clue.

A Morrison-led Coalition certainly does not deserve to be returned. It has adopted Labor policies thinking that will help. How cynical and self-serving! What a poor quality, value-free PM Morrison has turned out to be - less trustworthy than the previous two 'worst prime ministers ever', Turnbull and Rudd.

Personally, I don't give a stuff who wins. I'll be voting 1,2 and 3 for the options I mentioned above.

Oh, and don't forget that Morrison has let the state premiers piddle all over him on Covid.

ttbn, will you never learn, last time it was Corny Banana, now it's Conman Clive.

What a surprise, Indy is not voting LABOR.

Politics will not save Australia.

We have too many activists in politicts so the Government will reflect that diversity of cnflict, and will be intruding into personal lives.

politics may not save Australia - but the
people will. People will only tolerate so
much.

ttbn,

<<Oh, and don't forget that Morrison has let the state premiers piddle all over him on Covid.>>

I agree. There is some sort of pact in place to not upset the premiers too much. This is due to the fact from Scott Morrison's viewpoint and other Liberal members, that if we have predominately Liberal State/Territory Premiers in power and a future Labor PM, then these Liberal Premiers can pour whatever they want all over a Federal Labor Government - and make their life a mess.

Labor would take the same attitude.

If anything though it has lead to a Federal Parliament having little to no say on COVID-19 matters, (like antigen tests) when Federal Parliament should have had more say on policies here. I mean it's a national issue. For example at the moment some states have antigen tests for free, with others you pay.

"FINALLY: Victoria And NSW Are Making Rapid Antigen Tests Free"

http://www.pedestrian.tv/news/rapid-antigen-tests-free/

<<Politics will not save Australia.>>

With the above to go by, yes I agree. This long standing tradition must be overthrown, be put to an end or undergo major reform.

The best leaders fail when all they have is a motley gang of incompetent bureaucrats & advisors & unruly Bogans among the constituents & substandard mentality by those who want to see them fail !

Nathan,

Labor would indeed "take the same attitude"; that's why I don't really care who wins the next election. While I do care what happens to Australia, whoever is on the government benches won't change what has already happened, is happening now, and what will happen in the future. We simply do not have people of integrity, intelligence and ability in our political class. The same goes for most voters, who are very clearly getting the politicians they deserve.

We seem to be heading into a new Dark Age.

Strange how people see things differently.
Some look at the stars and reach for the
heavens while others prefer to keep their eyes
downcast and not see much that's uplifting at all.

What we need are leaders who do reach for the heavens.
Who have the vision to see how things can be improved.
And who have the gumption to take action.

With the new year just around the corner - we can
have hope, and possibly new opportunities that things
will get better for us all. We've always managed to
muddle through. I have every confidence that we shall
continue to do so.

Another instance that perhaps shows that it doesn't matter much what mob of shysters forms a government in Australia.

Bureaucrats in the ADF have determined that there is no national security risk that would justify stripping a Chinese company of the 99 year lease of the Port of Darwin (remember, that’s the one that horrified lefty US President Obama, and even Malcolm Turnbull, PM at the time).

Apolitical, and very smart, Michael Shoebridge, director of Australian Strategic Policy, says that the lease very obviously would not go through today, given the threat from Communist China. But, there it is, and looks like remaining, along with the continuing, worsening threat.

The Federal Labor member for Solomon (Darwin's electorate) has slammed the deal (don't know what said at the time of signing) saying, "the Coalition were asleep at the wheel when it waved through the lease".

Actually, Malcolm Turnbull had no power to stop it, thanks to our cranky Federation.

What a bunch of dills we are when it comes to politics and the well-being of our nation. Dills beget dills.

We seem to be heading into a new Dark Age.
ttbn,
Yes, the Goaf fired the starting gun & the insipid majority among the Academics have been sleep walking ever since & they're now the Woke ! Problem is they're not waking up !

Isn't this fun!

Keep it up boys - it's a great way to
pass the time!

individual,

True, they are not waking up, and probably will not until it is too late.

I sometimes listen to talk back radio, and there was one character a couple of nights ago who came on, all on fire about how Australians should stop criticising the 'gumnent' and realise now much better off we are we in Australia than other countries. You know, the usual guff. When asked about countries once free but not anymore, and how we have to be vigilant to preserve our democracy, this peanut confidently assured the presenter that Australia could never lose democracy, and hung up. With too many idiots like that, I wouldn't put money on Australia still being a democracy by the end of this century.

Australia still being a democracy by the end of this century.
ttbn,
Well, looking at the present majority I really don't actually want a Democracy but hopefully the sane will outbreed the present lot before then. I can forsee that over the next three decades the children of those tattooed & stud-faced morons will become too embarrassed to take notice of them & will pursue a more sensible trend.

The trouble with politicians, individual, is that they are a 'class': all connected. Very few of them come from outside - that is, had a job in the private sector, with all the experiences real life entails. The few who have had 'proper' jobs are usually lawyers. The political class is as close to being incestuous as you can be without the actual sex, although that's not always absent. I reckon the same sort will be involved in the loss of democracy at the end of the century.

Nothing like reading the Old Farts as they cry in their beer....the pain of it all, nothing another schooner down at gods waiting room won't fix.

Paul

Why do you call other people old farts when you are one yourself. You must be at least 70 now. And as for beer, you are the piss artist. I don't drink beer or any alcohol at all. Boozers find it hard to believe that some people don't touch alcohol. Perhaps it's the beer that got you mixed up with the Greens. You'd need to be blotto to vote Green, let alone join up.

Why all the name calling? Just stay on topic and end the nonsense. For Foxy to think it's all part of some sort of wonderful game, well it's not. Some people are getting tired of others going off topic and way off track.

3 years ago all the above left whingers were gloating about the certainty of a labor win. And after 3 years of eating crow, they are at it again.

ttbn, at times the grandkids will refer to me as an Old Fart, particularly my 16 year old g'daughter who is a very progressive thinker, I take no offense, it relates to a person's way of thinking, and not their age. As for, "crying in ones beer", nothing to do with drinking alcy, but one who laments what should have been, a person living in the past, feeling sorry for themselves. We are all "retro" to some extent.

Before people get too excited about the last election, the overall result was really a "Bradbury" win for the coalition.

On first preferences, although there was -1.39% swing against the ALP, the Libs also had a 0.68% swing against them too and the Nats lost 0.10%. The only way the coalition won was from preferences from Palmers UAP plus One Nation and in the end had won only one more seat than the previous election and the overall 2 party preferred result was only a 1.17% swing - hardly a landslide.

By the way, how are those promised 10,000 Adani jobs going?

Since then the Nats have seen they're in trouble and have become denim-clad coal-fondlers and trying to win coal-based seats, despite their history of trying to set up cheap accommodation for FIFO workers to displace local coal miners.

Also poll-wise, according to an ex-Newspoll executive that ‘preferred PM’ question is included in the survey to ‘get a headline’. He said it was a nonsense question.

Meanwhile after numerous scandals (financial and personal), ongoing negligence, gross financial mismanagement, incompetence and corruption they expect to be rewarded with "another go".
It’s worth remembering that Morrison can only continue as PM because he relies on the parliamentary votes of 1 alleged rapist, 2 pro-virus conspiracy theorists and 1 up-skirter that should have been in an ankle bracelet long ago.

Now their economically responsible myth is in tatters and refugees and terrorists have faded from the headlines, their strategy is now lining up to be the "tough on China" candidate.

SM, read my post on page 2, in my mind Labor is only the lesser of two evils. The D and A of Federal Labor only differs from the Coalition by a few degrees. With covid and the economy I doubt Labor would have done anything markedly different from the Coalition.

Albo for PM, I'm so excited. Sad reflection on Australia, the best 25 million people can throw up for the job of Fearless Leader, is ScomO and Albo. JESUS CHRIST what are we in for.

Oh how easy it is to be wise and critical in retrospect. Compared to the rest of the world, I think Australia's leadership has done remarkably well. It has to be remembered that the pandemic has not been experienced by anyone before and it is extremely difficult to manage a constantly changing scenario with hastily developed vaccines that had to be tested under extremely trying conditions with a social network either condemning so much of the science and technology or running scare tactics with little knowledge of what they were talking about... notwithstanding the very few who had qualifications that suggested that they did. It's a war which hopefully we are getting on top of and generally speaking I think we should give support to all those on the front line and who have to make ultimate life and death decisions in the face of all the criticism leveled at them. That mainly includes the politicians that have to act on the advice given to them by the medical profession. They are all doing their utmost to make the right decisions in very difficult and constantly changing circumstances. Name a country that has done better. This forum contains too many people that only want to throw stones.

Indeed Snake, no one really knows what is the best way to beat this plague.
Even the medical experts are making educated guesses.
After it is all over all the real experts world wide should establish
a commission and examine all the data and decisions and outbreak numbers.
Then they might be able to find the best way for next time.

All the political criticisms are ignorant.

The problem with Labour Juliemak is that they are all united with no
different opinion. They will go down the 50 zero path come hell or
high water. Whereas the coalition has known divisions on energy and
the first load shedding will cause a major rethink on energy policy.
That is what I want to see.
ps don't buy a unit in a multi story block !

Saw this on the Net just now & it reminded me of the Politics & policies of Labor.

I don't know who wrote this so I hope it's ok to use this very sane assessment.

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating

the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another

person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the

government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have

to work because the other half is going to take care of them,

and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to

work because somebody else is going to get what they work for,

that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Individual - Yes I have seen that quote before, apparently attributed to Dr Adrian Rogers.
http://libertytree.ca/quotes/Adrian.Rogers.Quote.4152
So very true.

Indy, very good, just what I've been saying about Pensioner Welfare, which is tipped to grow by a factor of three in a very short space of time, then the skies the limit. All we need is a Pensioner National Service, which run correctly will get the Old folk out of gods waiting room, and away from the one arm bandits, and into productive work. All at minimul cost to us taxpayers. Can I count you in? Fresh air, sunshine, muscle building exercise, great tucker, BTW How are you on baked beans for dinner 7 days a week? Just asking, might have spaghetti for a Sunday treat.

Individual,

I like what George Bernard Shaw had to say:

"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul
can always depend on the support of Paul."

The purpose of tax was to pay for retired Pensions,If you have worked and paid tax you are entitled to support in senior years.

http://www.upinsmokesignal.com/history-of-the-aged-pension-in-australia.php
"The Australian Pension scheme was set up in 1946 by the Chifley/Curtin Governments in a bipartisan agreement with the Menzies opposition. An income tax levy of 7.5%, called a social services contribution, was introduced to be used exclusively to finance social security cash payments. This contribution was paid into what was called a National Welfare Fund, from which payments were to be made. The fund was to be supplemented by subventions from payroll tax and general revenue.

Mr. Menzies stated that the Compulsory Contribution levy should be kept separate so that “the stigma of charity should be removed from the Age Pension. It should be an entitlement earned by the person’s personal contribution to the fund.” However in 1950 when the balance in the fund was almost 100 million pounds the levy was grouped with Tax Paid, but was still collected".

IT IS PAID FOR BY OUR OWN TAX CONTRIBUTION.

The truth is the socialists side of politics has had visions of some scheme or another which would provide for workers in their retirement. The conservatives believe that provision is a personal responsibility, and where one through their own failings can't provide then private charity is best. 'Pig Iron' Bob had no philosophical commitment to pensions, and he simply reduced it to a bread line payment for the poor.

"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul
can always depend on the support of Paul."
Foxy,
Peter being the working class & Paul the middle class i.e. Public Service bureaucrats.

Paul,

In my books from the fruity bunch of Labor, Gangrenes and one nation, Labor is the least of 3 evils. ON and Gangreens rank the same, both with ideological fwits.

SM, Don't beat yourself up over the Labor Party, a change of government would see nothing more than a change of emphasis, 90% of the business of government would carry on much as it is now. Talking of fwits, Cry Baby Porter, Barnyard Joy and Fat George to name three. The Loverly Pauline and the Mad Kelly were once Liberal Party members.

At least the Coalition is not the source of paedophiles such as the two I have mentioned before.

How about Crybaby Syph Hansen Young, or the expelled Christine Minge. Or the pretty much antisemitic rest of the fwit Greens?

Shadow Minister,

You do keep raising the topic of pedophiles.
Why is that?

And -

Talking about pedophiles?

It's not a good idea to finger-point unless your own
hands are clean so to speak.

Didn't prominent former PMs of the Liberal Party
fully support Cardinal Pell - putting their support
in writing - and that was even before the High Court
decision?

Hi Foxy,

SM is a sick dude, one he names was a failed candidate at a local gov election in 2012 and the other I think stood against Morrison. There was a former Liberal PM, now deceased, well known for his fetish for young boys. Even tried to pick me up one Sunday arvo at Sydney Airport, when I was protesting and he was flying back to Canberra, even the PM used Commercial air travel in those days, offered to buy me a ticket to Canberra with him. There is a another well known Liberal who is a kiddy fiddler.

Hi Paul,

Canberra is certainly a hot-bed for all sorts of
sexual activities. And most of us can turn a blind
eye to them. Except in my case - not if it concerns
children. That's a no-go area. I'd have those
creatures castrated. End of story.

Would you vote for people who will perjure themselves for money?

If the Chinese are reading these post they must be crapping themselves laughing at Australians !

Couldn't agree more Issy, can't vote for the Shooters and Hooters, with them financed by foreign money from the NRA of America through the SSAA in Australia.

Paul
So you agree and wouldn’t vote for someone who would perjure themselves for money, we’re making progress.

Now the idiot Albanese is pushing rapid rail.

What an idiot.

Borrow a hundred billion to build the thing, then a few billion each year there after to cover the losses it would run at. Guess there is lots of payola to be had in big contracts, typical Labor.

We have perfectly good air lines to cover fast transport, & we don't have to cover their losses.

Foxy,

You and Pauliar are desperate to cover up the fact that two senior greens were paedophiles that you are trying to deflect. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Pauliar particularly is a sick puppy.

That the coalition ministers supporting Pell were proved right by the high court still seems to irk you. The legally incompetent Victorian judges and DA should be disbarred for the kangaroo court they ran.

shadow minister,

I'm not surprised that Pell got off on a legal
technicality (he was not exonerated). He had
the best lawyers money could buy, the support
of some very powerful people, including the Church,
and much was withheld during his trial.

And yet - in contrast the complainant has been
believed by a jury, by a majority judgement and
by a substantial body of public opinion.

Mo Foxy he got off because the timing was impossible.
Seven High Court Judges said so.

Hi Bazz,

The High Court appeal did not ask whether Pell
committed the offences. It asked whether the
two majority judges in the Victorian Court of
Appeal, in dismissing Pell's earlier appeal made
an error about the nature of the correct legal
principles, or their application.

Here's a summary of the key events:

http://theconversation.com/how-george-pell-won-in-the-high-court-on-a-legal-technicality-133156

Hasbeen etc, the HST would be a good thing if it could be made to pay.
One item on the original scheme was a high level bridge over the
Hawkesbury River and or Broken Bay. It would have the same span and
height as the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
NB, it cannot use any of the permway of the existing track, it has
to be completely new.
The other question that will raise some ire is if it does not terminate
at Central will it terminate outside Parramatta or similar.
One suggestion was the Western Sydney Airport as its terminal which
would be ideal if it was extended to Melbourne.
I wonder if they really have thought it all out to that extent ?

Mhaze the link you gave does not finish like I have a good memory of.
I suspect it was sliced out in the point near the end as the end on
the link is how I remember it.
I think it could have been live when I saw it, I am often up late.
What I think was snipped out was where he says "go peaceably" and "go home".
I am very clear about peacefully as well as go home.

I have never heard the recording since with those words.
I have been watching for them ever since.
If it was snipped very quickly after they were said, they could easily disappear.

Albanese is making a big deal of the 'fast train'. OK for those living in Melbourne, Sydney of Brisbane. Not a vote winner for people in Adelaide, Darwin, Perth, Hobart or the regions West of the Great Dividing Range.

Which reminds me of the bozos employed by the Health Commission. A woman rang the Commission and found herself speaking to one of its minions based in Brisbane. When asked where she was calling from and replied, Adelaide, the bozo, complete with Australian accent, asked her if Adelaide was in Australia.

There's funny stories we can all relate.
Remember the book - "They're a weird mob,"
by Nino Culotta? I remember while living
and working in the US being asked if we had
any tall buildings in Australia? They were
convinced that kangaroos jumped up and down
our main streets. I told them I had a problem
wearing shoes because I was far more comfortable
and used to going with bare-feet.

Everything was bigger and better in the US.
I recall a Canadian friend telling me the story
of her taking an American colleague to a Dinosaur
Theme Park whilst her friend was visiting Canada.
The American friend no matter where she was
taken always stated - ours are bigger and better
in the US. My Canadian friend thought she'd shut
the American up with the Dinosaur Park but oh no.
The American ended up saying that they had parks
like that in the US.

The Canadian thought well - fair enough. Until
the Amwerican ended up by telling her that their
dinosaurs were alive. The Canadian had to admit she'd
been beaten and could not argue with that.

ttbn, unlike the Coalition, Labor has a plan for Australia. With the Morrison government its all about vote winning through pork barreling. If you're in a marginal Coalition seat they'll give you a swimming pool and car park, whether you need it or not.

Issy, are you going to claim you "won" a car at the next election, after the event of course. I believe it was a High Ace van. You didn't mention it when recently listing your car assets on the Forum. A good liar needs a good memory. PORKY AWARD.

Paul,
It is a Toyota dual cab ute
I expect to win agood amount on the next Federal election, elections are great to bet on as there are suckers on both sides of politics who bet emotionally but stupidly.

The stupid & hangers-on may just outnumber at the polling booths & bring about a change of Govt !

How are you all going with voting for people who commit perjury for money?
Would you vote for someone who does that, and has done so repeatedly.

"If you're in a marginal Coalition seat they'll give you a swimming pool and car park, whether you need it or not".
Posted by Paul1405

That would be like pink bats & school halls then would it Paul?

I wonder who got all the money from the idiot Brisbane under river tunnel? Should have been good for the odd billion.

people who commit perjury for money?
is Mise,
Well, they're the majority !

I note while Albo was in Newcastle, he was promising fast trains to Sydney and ships built in Newcastle. Does Albo realise Newcastle gains its wealth from Coal exported to China, which he will close by 2030. Newcastle Steel is already closed, and we import from China. All the coal fired power in the Hunter will close under Albo so where will the ship building steel come from?

Fast rail to Sydney from Newcastle, unless it stops at comuter stations where people live very few people will get on at Newcastle to enter Sydney. Newcastle has an airport whose planes fly to all major cities in Australia. He is talking big, but it is not dealing with public needs.

Hi Issy,

Your concern with the Shooters and Hooters and their gun happy coalition partner One Nutters being paid off by a foreign organisation, NRA of US, through the local chapter SSAA is understandable. You almost had me convinced to give em' a vote, but like Indy who carefully considered voting LABOR before rejecting them, on your advice I'll reject the S&H and One Nutters and vote for someone else.

Both sides of politics have been rabbiting on about 'high speed trains' since 1987. Hasn't happened yet. Never will.

Govt should focus on putting the brakes on the education dumbing down bandwagon.
Flooding Lake Eyre would bring a far greater economic, social & ecological benefit than high speed rail.
A non- military national Service would be the biggest win for this Nation !
Freezing & even lowering senior bureaucrat salaries would also bring about economic benfits.
First things first start with re-introducing measures to curb the insane drug & alcohol dependence of so many Australians !

individual,
Isn't alcohol dependence n Australia now lower than any time since WW2?
Shouldn't senior bureaucrat salaries be performance related rather than blindly frozen?
Why would it be a win if Australians temporarily lost their freedom?
Lake Eyre has naturally flooded before, so what analysis have you done or read regarding the benefits that brings? And how would you flood it artificially without turning it hypersaline?

Indy, has several pet hates, PS, the educated, aboriginals, people on welfare, other than those of his ilk, etc. He believes by extinguishing or penalizing his pet hates and replacing them with hair-brained schemes all will be miraculously fixed to his liking. The guy wants national service for others, but won't support pensioners in the workforce, something decent pensioners are now supporting, but not Indy as he continues to suck on the taxpayer teat of plenty.

Non-military national service could be started with working for the dole. Some retirees want to work because they spend too much. The number of public servants is ridiculous. 70% of Australians are dependent on alcohol. And our education system has become a political brainwashing exercise with 'Chinese characteristics', as Xi Jinping is constantly saying.

Foxy,

Pell was actually exonerated. Just look up the definition.

The technicality was that there was no corroborating evidence against him.

The unanimous judgement of the 7 greatest legal minds in the country pointed out this simple fact and disgraced the 3 Victorian judges.

Pauliar,

Labor is running a low profile campaign so their policies mostly a mystery. The two moronic policies so far are a high speed rail to Brisbane and ten tankers that are sit in port.

As for pork-barrelling in 2013 Labor was pork-barrelling as much or more than the coalition ever did.

shadow minister,

I totally disagree with you on this one.
Totally. And this particular case has done
tremendous damage for sexual abuse victims
in our legal system. Ask the Foster family
and many others. Anyhow - I've covered this
topic with you in the past. Nothing productive
will be gained by us going around in circles
once again.

You have your opinion. I have mine. This is
not a competition.

shonkyminister, back to the name calling I see. Where are you now, sitting in the Pig Iron Bob memorial swimming pool in Snob Ives, or Hanging out at the Silly John Howard car park.

BTW, The release of 20 year old cabinet papers have shown Howard was the countries biggest liar since Pig Iron Bob. Have you worked out who was the Liberal PM who was also a pedophile, everyone else knows.

Paul,

You have lied so often and so consistently that I can't take anything you say at face value. Put up a link or slink away.

Foxy,

I have the facts which cannot be disputed, you have your opinion.

Read the definition of "exonerate" and read the Judges decisions.

What the findings of the high court judges showed was that guilty verdicts based on flimsy evidence cannot stand and that the duty of trial and appellate judges is to base verdicts on facts not only on a convincing sob story.

shadow minister,

We've covered all of this already.
My facts differ from yours.
You need a larger lens to see the
full picture.

Now back to the topic.

Is Josh Frydenberg justified in criticizing
Labor's economic policies?

Hi Issy,
You know, I like to put a burr under your saddle from time to time, don't take affiance, all in jest.

Paul,
I certainly don’t take a fiance, I’m happily married.

Is Mise,

You're happily married?

But is your wife?
(smile).

Posted from Phone Issy can get anything. I don't check much. Doing 7 days in lock up, got covid. So has half the whanau, Xmas gift from Uncle Rooster and Aunty Chook from Sydney on Xmas day, and I've never met em, lucky me.

Foxy,
No complaints (well, no majour ones) after 26 years.

Paul,
That’s bloody bad luck, hope all get over it OK, been no big alerts locally but then we live in virtual isolation anyway.

Thanks Issy,

Been ok, double dosed, so symptoms mild, 2hrs on New Years Day for drive in testing, got there at 7am opening time, bloody hell 300 waiting. Wife went to the Xmas party, Xmas night, I had enough Xmas day, kids gave me a nice bottle of rum, none of them drink rum, most went Xmas Day, all gone now. Do you like op rum? I do. Seems Uncle Rooster had a neg test 3 days before leaving Sydney, but went to a work Xmas party before driving to Qld and got the virus. Wife gave it to me, step son gave her number to Qld Health, rest is history.

Ps If you see a stray rooster and chook around Sydney, you have my permission to use your gun, give em both barrels for me. I don't even know their names.

Foxy,

You have one eye closed so that you can't see the facts that conflict with your opinion.

shadow minister,

In the world of the blind a one-eyes person is king.

In your case - well, you can't force someone to see
the truth.

Boring.

Grumble when you go to bed
Grumble when you rise
Makes a person dull, boring,
And despised.

Foxy,

As you have been unable to dispute anything I have posted it appears that your strategy is just to ignore them and hope that the facts disappear.

Pell was exonerated, his conviction was thrown out as invalid due to a lack of evidence. His slate was wiped clean except for those that did not require any evidence whatsoever.

you can't force someone to see
the truth.
Foxy,
Rose-coloured idealism isn't truth !

shadow minister,

I would like to be able to agree with you but
then we'd both be wrong.

Foxy,

Nope, Just you are wrong.

shadow minister,

How can I be wrong when I'm right.

As this discussion has become boring, it might be spiced up a bit if people read "The Astrology of Anthony Albanese" giving an insight into the opposition leader from the assessment of an Astrologer.

http://www.jessicaadams.com/2022/01/04/blog/the-astrology-of-anthony-albanese/

Thank You Nathan for the link on Anthony Albanese.
It's quite interesting. Makes me want to research
the man further.

the link on Anthony Albanese. It's quite ,
Foxy,
Gawd !

Hi Foxy,

Didn't have a lot to do with Albo in the early days of the politics of inner Sydney although he was in the neighbouring seat of Greyndler. Seen as a member of Labor's right, Albo didn't like the Greens, we were interlopers stealing traditional Labor votes. At the last election he failed to gain 50% of the primary vote, and had to rely on Liberal preferences to easily defeat the Green candidate, who finished second.

Nathan

The discussion is not boring; it's the silly, childish and pointless back and forth between certain narcissistic posters that is boring. One says black, the other says white, and neither is capable of stopping. They are both full of the brown stuff.

Do you believe in astrology? I think that it is about as believable as Albanese and the rest of our seedy politicians, or the absurd narcissists mentioned above.

ttbn,

<<it's the silly, childish and pointless back and forth between certain narcissistic posters that is boring. One says black, the other says white, and neither is capable of stopping.>>

I don't like that either. To me that's boring and it's been going on for years. I don't know what to do to stop it. I only wish new people would post some discussion topics. Previous people here, like Tony/Toni Lavis and A.J Phillips would bluntly refuse to post topics, and simply take the black/white approach. They'd treat this page as if we are all part of some sort of high school debating contest.

As for Astrology, not 100%, but I had to find something to revitalise the debate here and get people discussing politics and the next election - not the guff they'd been going on about for quite some time, which was pretty much all about nothing.

ttbn, and Nathan,

My sincere apologies to you both.

I should not have allowed myself to continue to be
drawn in to respond to shadow minister. Unfortunately
I did. I did not mean to cause any offence to you
both.

I shall now go away.

Have a nice day.

Nathan

I agree that some new blood would be helpful. Unfortunately, any casual viewer might be put off by the continual "guff" and the Three Stalkers/Cancel Culture Club trying to cancel opinions they don't like. They have had no success, but they keep trying. They could bore for Australia.

ttbn,

You're absolutely spot on.

We're the guilty opnes.

You guys are perfect.

You never criticize opinions that you don't agree with.

You never point out the deficiencies in others.

You never name-call or insult.

You are a paragon of virtue and always right.

How can anyone possibly argue with that.

Plus you are never boring or dull. Look at the number
of followers that you attract.

You are simply put - AWESOME!

Australia needs more people like you.

Another set of poll results have come out recently and overall things aren't looking 100% for Scott Morrison or the Liberal Party.

The Morrison Government has had its worst poll results since the black sunday bushfires.

No, it's not 100% for Labor in some people's eyes, but if the Prime Minister doesn't get his act together, I don't see him lasting and I can easily see other minor parties taking over in the Senate and a lot of indepdendent candidates getting re-elected or voted into office.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/anthony-albanese-to-tap-into-voter-frustration-as-he-looks-towards-the-federal-election/news-story/f4c135952e9770e38d20b5c50387f852

The Prime Ministers handling of COVID-19 matters have done him no credit and the lack of leadership has been appalling.

NathanJ, at the present moment I can see no better result for the Australian population than the Senate to be controlled by a couple of the new parties emerging on the right.

Agreed Morrison has not done well enough to be reelected, particularly with his current policies, & Albanese controlled by the greens would be even worse.

To paraphrase perhaps the worst PM we ever had, Well may you say god save the Queen, because nothing looks like saving Australia

A fourth term is a big ask, especially for a government that is virtually leaderless.

The Liberal Party should have in its DNA that it is the party of small government, of individual opportunity, of personal responsibility. Yet everywhere Australians have been subjected to government overreach at the expense of individual liberty during Covid. Small businesses should never have been shut while corporates were allowed to remain open and prosper at the expense of individual and family-owned enterprises.

The National Cabinet has been a dispiriting example of the worst kind of federalism. The the politics of fear has shamelessly been exploited. The National Cabinet has been something for Morrison to hide behind - along with the 'experts'. Fearmongering, authoritarianism is the name of the game.

David Flint wonders if Morrison wants to lose the election, "surrendering to" net zero emissions as he has done, very possibly causing Liberal supporters to place their first preferences "with newer parties supporting older values".

He goes on to mention:

Higher cost of living
Crowded capital cities
Housing unaffordability
Mass immigration
Stagnant wages

And, we could see desertion of both major parties, who have "swept aside the principal safeguards in the constitutional system bequeathed to us by the British and which Australians have enjoyed for over one and a half centuries".

ttbn, can we expect another one of your Corny Banana parties, some time soon? You know the type it scored almost half a percent of the vote at the last election. Dillbrain Dave can be its leader, with all the little conserves falling in behind.

According to The Australian Financial Review - the
federal election of 2022 is not decided at all.
There's pluses and minuses on both sides of politics.

We know that the Prime Minister is a better campaigner
than the leader of the Opposition. And he can point to
the fact that after two years of COVID most people
have got jabbed and the high vaccination rates mean
that most people are now safe from serious illness.

As restrictions have eased we're seeing an economic
rebound and "the fastest monthly job growth in
Australian history."

But of course there are many twists to be solved.
Employment is currently high because migration is low
but the government is going to have to bring in some
skilled migrants in or put growth at risk. Global
bank interest rates are set to rise. There's more
at the following:

http://afr.com/politics/federal/an-election-beckons-with-all-still-to-play-for-20211227-p59kac

So many unknowns still ahead.

Will both leaders be able to unite their parties and have them
stand behind them? We'll have to wait and see.

For the long term future of any party, if not Oz & it's people, the next election could be a very good one to lose.

Dear Hasbeen,

I think you're right.

Voters will make their feelings known at this
coming election. They've all been through so
much. However, I still believe that we're better
off than some other countries.

The person who should be PM of Australia is the Premier of WA Mark McGowan. I said this 12 months ago, and its more than obvious today. As Morrison stuffs up yet again with his handling of the pandemic, McGowan has shown the leadership Australia needs.

Paul,

At least you have seen the light that no Greens have any prospect of leadership.

After the next election the Greens will have a big say in the Senate. DAVID SHOEBRIDGE will be the second Green senator for NSW.

The Coalition ran up a trillion dollar debt handing out free cash to their mates like Gerry Harvey who stuffed it in his pocket. Maybe ScumO can borrow some dosh from China. BTW China has a social security system, not like India where Capatalism let's them starve to death in the streets.

Pauliar,

Do you never get tired of lying continuously?

Firstly, it is nowhere near $1T closer to $700m.
Secondly, Labor and the gangreens wanted to spend much more,
Finally, compared to Krudd and Juliar, the Coalition are saints.

Name calling is far easier, more emotionally
gratifying and poses less risk of having to
change one's point of view, than is checking
and applying logic.

Resorting to cheap name-calling is an attempt to
try to belittle one's opponent to make oneself
look better.

Thankfully, it rarely works.

cont'd ...

And it's not something that Mr Anthony Albanese
does. His hands are clean in this regard.

Foxy,

More sanctimonious finger waving?

SM,

How's your blond headed baboon in England going. He went to a piss up party when he had everyone else locked down, but didn't know it was party for Conservative pissheads. Since Dangerous Doctor Donald got A-Holed, Bug Ridden Boris is your new bestest Folk Hero, am I correct?

What about the syphilitic ridden greens senators?

The homophobic and violent green councillor?

The pedophilic green parliamentary candidate?

shadow minster,

Better finger-waving than foul mouthing,
complaining and mooning.

Foxy,

Or lying through your teeth?

shadow minister,

Putting it politely -

A little "inaccuracy" sometimes saves tons of
explanation as you know being inaccurate
most of the time.

Foxy,

What Bollocks, I quote information from world renounce sources while Pauliar pulls info from his backside and you rely solely on your "opinion".

If you want to dispute anything please provide some proof don't just thumbsuck it.

shadow minister,

I do provide data from a variety of sources as
my posting records show. However, most of them
seem unacceptable to you because the facts
don't agree with your world views. And that is
something over which none of us have any control.
Your continued use of ad hominem attacks and
name-calling is your usual ploy which has worn thin
a long time ago.

You are one of those people on this forum who has
to resort to name calling in politics than
actually checking facts and using logic. This happens
with people like you who have neither facts nor logic
on their side. Name calling becomes as a way to try
to belittle your "opponent" in an attempt to make
yourself look better.

Name calling is far easier, more emotionally gratifying
and poses less risk to change one's point of view than
in checking and applying logic.

Subsequently people end up either walking away or
ignoring you.

Sadly, this is done because you think it works.

Call me Paul, I'll call you shadowminister, or SM for short.
Call me Pauliar, I call you shonkyminister or Shonky for short. You got away with calling me much worse, it has to do with paedophiles, your favourite topic. I only ever retaliate in kind, so be it.
BTW, I see politicians as fair game, including Green poly's, call them What you like. They stick it out there, it gets knocked off, they deserve it. My favorite The Mad Katter, or maybe Barnyard Joy, Cry Baby Porter is not bad.

Foxy,

With all due respect, you have very seldom ever provided links that contain facts only opinions, and when I present cold hard facts you claim to have a different opinion. You seem to be confused between facts and opinion.

I have facts and logic on my side and you have neither. As far as Pauliar is concerned, he lies deliberately and continuously and gets huffy when I call him out.

shonky,

If quoting from rightwing trash is facts and logic, then that's you. If not agreeing with you is a lie, then that's you again.

shadow minister,

My posting record speaks for itself.

Yours really shouts.

I have the foresight to understand that I will
not be able to change your behaviour and beliefs
and talking to you leads only to a dead-ends.
Therefore, most of the time I prefer to walk away
which simply means preserving my sanity. I don't
see the point in continuing to talk to someone
who embraces and enables lies.

Enjoy your day.

Foxy,

Your fact-free posting record does speak for itself.

I assumed that you walked away because you had no rational response.

shadow minister,

If I'm so bad - why do you persist in talking to
me? Is this making you feel better or superior
in some way?
And is this your version of being rational?
Or are you trying to save both your faces?

Don't you know that great minds (e.g. Einstein)
never made even one of their discoveries through
the power of rational thinking.

Talk to the hand.

Foxy,

I have followed a lot of Einstein's work both in quantum mechanics and relativity and in both cases, logic and reason were very much present. His 1907 paper on the quantisation of light took the work from Planck and formulated the basis for field theory the treatment of light as both a particle and a wave and essentially kicked off quantum mechanics as it is today.

Special relativity 1905 was the next step from Maxwell's equations on electromagnetism etc.

Rational thought was there in spades.

Talk to the finger.

Vote One Albanese and Labor and the Greens if you think that perjuring yourself is a requisite for being in Parliament.

shadow minister,

I'd prefer not to talk to your finger.
I don't know where it's been.

As for Einstein?

He did say:

"Logic will get you from A to Z.
Imagination will get you everywhere."

And -

"I never came upon any of my discoveries
through the process of rational thinking.

Hi Foxy,

This Wally thinks he is EINSTEIN, his last post is a straight cut and past job from the internet. More like he's Coco The Clown's performing monkey.

Hi Paul,

I feel that he wants to challenge people with his
unique point of view.

Hi Foxy,

If only EINSTEIN had access to the internet and Google, he would be almost as smart as shonkyminister.

Hi Paul,

There's plenty on the web - but it doesn't beat
a good read. And that's what worries me about
our kids. I still continue to push age appropriate
and interesting stories for my grandkids to read.

"PM Morrison trails Albanese in trust and likeability according to new poll."

http://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/pm-morrison-trails-albanese-in-trust-and-likeability-according-to-new-poll/video/8b2eefb10a679545e5162a0ea02fe6b0

If the polls are anything to go by it's not looking good. I don't think people can make comparisons to the last election, as Scott Morrison was a newer guy on the block and there was no COVID-19.

We need to remember the last election where
the polls indicated that Labor would win.
That it was an election they could not lose.
Yet, as Scott Morrison said - "He believes
in miracles." And a "miracle" was delivered.

Perhaps it can happen again?

I’m betting that Morrison will win.

Pauliar,

Once again you are lying through your teeth. I wrote the last post and I challenge you to show where I copied it from.

You are a brain dead moron.

Is Mise,

I agree with you about Morrison. To date
I have not seen any other alternative
that's strong enough to capture the public's
imagination. But there's still time, I guess.

Issy, will you be getting odds of 1000/1 the winner the day after the election like last time. Then tell us all about it on Monday morning. PORKY!

You are yet to explain your "big win" from the last election.

Paul,
Where emotions are involved fools will bet.
I bet ‘odds on’ in my favour and bet both sides to win, it’s only a matter of balancing the bets to ensure a win; bookmakers do it as a matter of course.

Issy, you never did explain how much you need to outlay in a 2 horse race to win enough to buy a car. Say you were able to obtain odds of $2.10 each of two in a two horse race then to win $1,000 you need to outlay $20,000, that is $10,000 on each runner, no matter which one wins wins. Now a bookmaker, his book is always over 100% as any smart punter knows. The fact is to win big by laying both runners in a two horse race, not only do you have to anticipate the movement of the odds, you have to outlay a lot of money. My question is; How does an old pensioner win a car by backing both side in an election?. EVIDENCE PLEASE.

Paul,

Because fools bet with their emotions not their brains.

Hi Issy,

ln my student days I spent some little time as a "Penciler" for a bookmaker at the "red hots", that is the Harold Park trots on a Friday night, I know how punting works. My simple question to you is what odds did you get each, for Labor and the Coalition at the last election? A very simple question, yet you refuse to answer. 10/1 5/1 evens odds on? You always are asking my forum friend Foxy and myself for EVIDENCE so I'm now asking you for EVIDENCE. Why not be a dog with a bone.

Paul
I offer $1,000 against a like or greater amount, then accept the bet when I have an equal counter bet, fools, to boost their ego or to shew how certain that their man will be elected will bet 2, 3 or more thous to my one. Can’t not win.

Never bet on horse races the only ones involved who are honest are the horses, likewise the trots.
The.dogs were another thing, especially when there were 10 races and only 8 boxes, one or two boxes were going to win twice or one box could win three times. So one backed the box that won the first race in the second and so on, sometimes a lot of money had to be laid out for a win so if it didn’t pan out by the sixth race we’d give itt up for that night but usually it paid off by the sixth.
Then the golden rule was ‘stop betting and go home’.

Hi Issy,

Liked working the trots, colorful character's. The old bookie I worked for, they said he was an alky, kept a flask in his back pocket, but he knew what he was doing.

Pauliar,

For someone that never presents EVIDENCE, you are very vocal in asking others.

The question is how much did you lose after your gloating last time?

Don't know what you are on about shonky. I haven't bought as much as a lottery ticket in 20 years, leave the lotto to the wife. I didn't have a great interest in the result of the last election.

If I was a bookie I'd bet;

The Coalition $1.90
Labor $2.00
Any other party or group $101.00
No result $16.00 (none can form gov)

Paul,
If we ever become a republic I suggest that the President be a successful bookmaker!!

I watched Anthony Albanese being interviewed on
"The Insiders," on Sunday morning. He certainly
has a new image. New haircut. Smart looking suit.
He seems to have lost weight - and he's even quite
articulate. Impressive all round. Whoever is advising
him is doing a bang-up job! He's actually looking like
quite a handsome man, and leadership material. Very
presentable. Also - he answered all the questions
very well - he did not waffle on.

My husband tells me that the Labor is also currently
leading in the polls. It's going to be an interesting
time in the months ahead. I think we'll all benefit from
it - as the race begins.

Even though you can't trust polls, Labor must be more than happy with the latest Newpoll, having them leading the Coalition 56/44 two party preferred.

Not surprising given ScumO and his mob have stuffed everything from Covid, hundreds dying, to the economy, a trillion dollar debt and nothing to show for it.
Australians can't forget it was Morrison and that jerk in NSW who were demanding Australia open up when through their negligence hundreds more Australians have died from Scotty virus.

I'll repeat what I wrote on another discussion -
regarding Scott Morrison? It's too early to tell.
He's an unfinished story. The COVD-19 pandemic has
ensured his incumbency will be a significant one,
either for good or bad.

I was reading recently a list of the top-ranking
Australian Prime Ministers according to experts.
My list is only a small one in comparison.

Sir Robert Menzies.
Bob Hawke.
Julia Gillard.
Malcolm Turnbull.

Hi Foxy,

Obviously those EXPERTS are not familiar with:

ALFRED DEAKIN
BILLY HUGHES
JOHN CURTAIN
FRED ZIFFEL

Hi Foxy,

I gave my list - the ones I'm familiar with.

I also like the following politicians:

Kristina Kenneally.
Penny Wong.
Kerry Chikarovski.
Kelly O"Dwyer.
Anna Burke.
Kerryn Phelps.
Julie Bishop.
Dave Sharma.
Quentin Bryce.

To name just a few.

Oooops. Sorry I meant to say - Hi Paul.
Darn my eyes and mind.

Hi Foxy,

I thought that was a list from experts, not that you are not an expert, just as expert as anyone. It's all subjective.

I've read about every Australian Prime Minister, and many US Presidents, also British PM's. For a small country, population wise, our leaders can hold their own with the greats of those bigger countries. For example Winston Churchill was a great war time leader, and Britain was in the thick of it. John Curtin in his own way was just as great, but in a much smaller country. What Churchill did for Britain in his way, Curtin did for Australia.

Hi Paul,

I admit I don't know that much about our past PMs.
I'm still learning. A work in progress. I'll have to do
more reading about Curtin. He sounds interesting.

Hi Foxy,

I've had a life time of reading about Australian political history. Particularity pre WWII, fascinating times, fascinating characters, put todays lot to shame. Without my socialists hat on, and not really counting the modern PM's, and being as fair as possible.

Best PM John Curtin, runner up Bob Menzies. Honourable mention for Joseph Lyons.

Worse PM Billy McMahon runner up Stanley Bruce.

That's discounting Page, Fadden and Ford who only served days in office.

The WWI and earlier PM's Barton, Deakin, Watson, Reid, Fisher, Cook and Hughes. These were mostly excellent in office in setting Australia on the right parth to nationhood. In my mind Barton, Deakin and to a lesser degree Cook were standouts. They all make for a great read.

Now that's a mixed bag from all over the political spectrum.

Hi Paul,

You've certainly opened up a few doors and aroused
my curiousity regarding Australian history so
Thank You. I've forgotten so much of what I thought
I knew previously. Now I'm going back and discovering
so much more.

I do not think there is much sense in praising/criticising politicians
and even epidemic medical experts on COVID matters because I believe
virtually no one has a clue on the best way to handle it.
After the event a statistical examination with all the data available
and properly dated may point out what worked and what did not.

If Albo wins it will be interesting to see how Labour managers the
decrease in CO2 emissions. Not all sources will be able to be reduced
by 43/8 = 5.4% per year to 2030.
For instance diesel for trucks will be hard to reduce by that much
every year so other parts of the economy will have to make larger
reductions every year.
Will the Defense Forces have to reduce their consumption by more than
5.4% per year ? Will rail services, freight & passenger have to reduce
by more than 5.4% per year ?
Public Transport will have to be expanded into other areas with electric busses.
The provision of these services will increase emissions significantly.
Certainly it seems that private car use will have to be drastically
reduced by taxes or petrol rationing.
Frankly, I just cannot see a way around it.

Dear Bazz,

Exciting times ahead by the sound of it.

We certainly have the intelligence and the tools and the
natural resources to provide for a good and sustainable
life. Australia is one of the standout countries in
terms of development status. We have leading climatologists,
scientists, our pre-eminent public research organisation -
CSIRO is a leader in innovations. It is not corrupt. It's
science is world class. All this matters.

New ideas should be welcome for the opportunities they
open up for the improvement of the human lot.

Of course new ideas are seen as threats by those who have
become comfortable in their ideologies. But realistically
that will have to change in the next decades if the country
is to survive and prosper.