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Jacqui Lambie's Speech.

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Carn Jacqui! My heroine.
Posted by Maverick, Monday, 29 November 2021 4:16:45 PM
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Hey Foxy

Teach grandsonny
Some austerity
Git'im a Beatles CD.

Mavers
Posted by Maverick, Monday, 29 November 2021 4:30:42 PM
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Jacqui used some poor examples and false general statements, but was overall correct in stating that people ought to be responsible for their choices.

Self defense against infection is quite legitimate and people are well within their moral boundaries to demand that everyone be vaccinated WITHIN THEIR OWN MORAL JURISDICTION.
Thus anyone may require, if so they wish, that everyone entering their home or business (including employees) be vaccinated and the public may similarly require everyone (including public servants/contractors) to be vaccinated in given public spaces where they might come in physical contact with others.

However, while in Australia most measures to demand vaccination were appropriate, some states have overstepped their moral jurisdiction when also demanding vaccination within private spaces.

Nobody, including states, may legitimately attempt to "protect" those who never (explicitly or implicitly) sought their protection against a given "danger", viruses included.

Thus decrees to forbid private practices by unvaccinated people (such as independent doctors, teachers, shopkeepers, etc.) from providing services to willing customers, is beyond moral limits. It would still be reasonable though, to demand that such unvaccinated practices place a clear sign on their door in order to avoid misleading the public: "unvaccinated business, you may enter at your own risk". Same for visiting friends and relatives so long as the latter are aware that the visitor is not vaccinated.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 29 November 2021 4:42:57 PM
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The antithesis to Jackie Lambie's senate speech

https://youtu.be/22C33ML_MB8
Posted by Roscop, Monday, 29 November 2021 8:19:41 PM
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Fester, taking the jab doesn't stop you from acquiring covid 19 or spreading it. As I understand it both vaccinated & unvaccinated can have the same viral load. Only the symptoms can be that mild the vaccinated can go around spreading it. Wnen they are recommending that you get vaccinated they don't tell you that. Why do you think that is so? When they don't tell you the full story I'm inclined to be very sceptical.
Posted by Roscop, Monday, 29 November 2021 8:39:24 PM
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Hi Steele,

Watch out for any oddball, who likes to "talk dirty" to others, often incessantly talking about such things as paedophiles or penises and the like. A phycologist friend tells me it could be an attempt at self justification.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 29 November 2021 8:51:20 PM
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