Aiden, How is steel made witout Coal? How is glass made without gas?
How is cement made without gas? How is grass mown or compost made or refuse decomposed without releasing gas?

We want the Government to change their ways and subderdise ours but we will not change ours is the fact. Returning to a primitive aboriginal hunter gather culture is the only life that will reduce human creation of CO2 and Green house gasses.

Shadowminister and Hasbeen,

Given solar packages are now zero up front costs, at least here in Victoria, even home owners on limited budgets can have them installed.

You were going to have your pocket reached into if the government had decided to build new coal fired power stations instead. Australians have largely given sooks like the two of you the finger and gone 5he solar path.

It is my belief that the PM will give in, in Glasgow to the Green Lobby believing they represent the largest voice in Australia, being a Democrasy. But he will not be in power in 2050 to deal with the economics and unemployment consequences of zero emmissions. From the loss of employment from coal mining and related uses and employment loss from fosil fuelled vehicles, aircraft and shipping [gas, alcohol, petrol, oil and diesel].

Josephus,
>How is steel made witout Coal?
There are various ways; the easiest is just to recycle it in an electric arc furnace. But if you're asking about making it from scratch, alternative carbon sources (such as biochar) can be used. The reduction or iron ore can instead be done with hydrogen to make sponge iron. Further into the future, molten oxide electrolysis promises even greater efficiency improvements, though that's still at the experimental stage at the moment.

>How is glass made without gas?
The gas is only used to make heat, which could instead be made with electricity.

>How is cement made without gas?
See above!

>How is grass mown or compost made or refuse decomposed without releasing gas?
Electric mowers have been around for decades.
Compost can be made under aerobic conditions - indeed it's generally regarded as giving better results when it is.
Refuse could instead be degraded thermochemically. But it may be more efficient just to capture the gas produced (as is widely done already).

>We want the Government to change their ways and subderdise ours but we will not change ours is the fact.
We want the problem solved without major changes to our lifestyles, which is fair enough.

>Returning to a primitive aboriginal hunter gather culture is the only life that will reduce
>human creation of CO2 and Green house gasses.
I am unable to comprehend how anyone could believe such a ludicrous statement. Can you explain it?

Aidan if you were any more naive, you would sprout wings & fly off with Tinkerbell.

Former Climate activits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-yALPEpV4w