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They Want 100% Renewable Energy By 2050. They Just Don't Want To Pay For It.

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JBowyer,

Aiden is like one of those robotic answering machines, saying the same thing no matter how many times you ring. I generally ignore him.

I couldn't care less about his "wholesale prices". My retail price on an electricity account due this month is 125% higher than it was this time last year.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 14 October 2021 10:24:49 AM
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It was my understanding that the rise in retail pricing was due to the "gold plating" of the networks and suppliers artificially reducing supply in a Cartel like manner?
Or am I incorrect?
Posted by ViolentEntropy, Thursday, 14 October 2021 12:50:52 PM
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ViolentEntropy,

Can't say. But you can be sure that the crooks are onto all lurks available to relieve us of our money. It's not just electricity. Australians pay too much for everything.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 14 October 2021 2:00:56 PM
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I am starting to really not like this country anymore.
It no longer resembles anything that I once knew and loved.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 14 October 2021 7:03:19 PM
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JBowyer,
> I loved your line about reduced wholesale electricity prices!
But will you love it more, or start hating it, when you discover it's true?

>That is the whole point. Renewables have more than doubled our prices
No they haven't. Prices have more than doubled, but that was mainly due to higher gas prices.

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ttbn,
>I couldn't care less about his "wholesale prices". My retail price on an electricity
>account due this month is 125% higher than it was this time last year.
Your electricity company is ripping you off, but you don't have to stick with them. Consumers can buy electricity on the wholesale market from http://www.amber.com.au

As for your earlier post:
Alan Moran acknowledged and respected? Who by?
After the low quality articles on this site he's previously written, certainly not by me!
Indeed his involvement with two rightwing think tanks with a track record of deception (the Institute of Public Affairs and the Heartland Institute) would probably make most thinking people quite wary even before they read the crap he writes!

You are living in the past, failing to notice that the cost of generating solar and wind power has plummeted over the past decade. And just to be crystal clear: of course that DOESN'T mean it's subsidised more. Subsidies don't directly affect the cost of power generation; they only change who pays for it. And they were only ever a short term tactic to get the industry up and running.

But don't just take my word for it: hear it from a genuine acknowledged and respected source: Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2020/01/21/renewable-energy-prices-hit-record-lows-how-can-utilities-benefit-from-unstoppable-solar-and-wind/?sh=65b25a8d2c84
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 14 October 2021 9:37:34 PM
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Dear JBowyer,

I am paying a third of what I was before I put solar panels on. Australia has the highest uptake of solar panels in the world.

Our panels were subsidised by the Federal and State Goverments along with our insulation under Rudd all in the name of renewable energy and reducing demand.

It is you muggins who are being left behind.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 14 October 2021 11:16:18 PM
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