The only people I know of in Tasmania who might have, and also would provide that information (about the farmers) in Tasmania would be the meat workers' union. I don't think the RSPCA knows (or wants to know), and government, if it knows, will refuse to provide it. Since its website contains minimal detail on intensive farming and none on live exports, I suspect it finds the subject a bit touchy.
The government's position is that it "does not support, or even condone, live exports, but it respects the right of farmers to get the best price for their 'products'" (says it all really). Having said that, it then just defaults to it being a matter for the Federal government.
I did try to get some information from the DPIW vet who sub-contracts to AQIS at live export time, a while back and he didn't reply (Dr Rick (Patrick) Campbell in Devonport). He didn't do too great a job with the "Al Messilah", did he?
Alex

Alex007said

He didn't do too great a job with the "Al Messilah", did he?
PALE replies
No Alex he didnt.

I dont know who you are but what I do know is you have "good understanding" of the system.

May we ask a big favour?
If your not working full time biz hours would you meet Delgates at air port and take them to the selected properties? There would be a Halal meat rep as well so you would not be alone .

We of course will pay everything[and you] its time thats my problem.

I have the usual contacts that you mentioned above but we are starved of "local knowledge."

It would be much better if you contacted me by email because there are some things I wont put here.

We are looking for the following if you can help it would be very much appreciated.

1 Local knowledge for the best accomadation for delagates from overseas[ prefernce to Halal meals if available and Car hire[ minny bus]

2 Abattoirs Farms- even domestic plants etc[ I will do that but if you think of any let me know[

3 A good parcel of land in a perfect position.ie Good feed water near main road]

4 Where are most of the sheep farm areas?

The rest I could Google but you will know.

A. The Tassi Premier- Name contact

The State Mininster for Aboriginal affairs and especially anybody doing or looking to do special programes.
B The Minister for health--
C The Mininster for Employment
D The Mininster for trade- but he will probably be the Premier- surprise surprise
E Where is Bob Browns office ?

If all goes well we will buy 2 here in QLD one for the moment in NSW. I have already asked about Tassi and sent your story through.
I got a yes go ahead back on Tassi.[ and a couple of comments about your Roberts bloke I wont print]

Would welcome ANY info from your friends in other states ie WA Vic etc to follow the same programe as above.

We will just take that as a No- and thank you for opening this thread to keep in the spot light the dreadful treatment of our Australian Animals.
We are painfully aware of the black list on any other groups working with pale.
However unlike others pale has no political agenda and is totally dedicated to improving conditions for Animals.

We know you cant have your cake and eat it too.

In Animal Welfare- Same applies- you cant say ban live Exports but refuse to help establish plants to process them here.

One must then wonder what these enourous amount of funds given by the public are actually used for.

No person working at pale recieve`s a wage and most members are paying costs as well as working for no costs.
We will continue our work to re-open abattoirs in Australia with improved methods.
For The Animals!

Hi PALE - I'm so sorry, I missed your earlier message. I'm usually more careful than that, and I always reply. I don't know how that happened. In answer to your questions (as best I can) - the Premier is (the very arrogant) Paul Lennon (also the Patron of RSPCA Tasmania; God knows how that happened), Minister for Primary Industries and Water is the useless David Llewellyn, and the Attorney General is Steve Kons. So far as I know, the Aboriginal population here is very small, and not especially active (in terms of special programs). Unfortunately I do work full time, too, and quite long hours, with travelling time as well. The main farming areas seem to be around the Midlands - Oatlands, Ross - and some around New Norfolk in the south as well. I'm not very familiar with the north. The State Secretary of the AMIEU is Grant Courtney, and the Opposition (Federal) spokesman for Agriculture is Tasmania's own Kerry O'Brien (who asked some very telling questions in Senate Estimates not so long ago). Tasmania has been made aware of the death toll of the last voyage from Devonport (February 2006). There is also a group called Against Animal Cruelty Tasmania and the CEO of RSPCA Tasmania is Dr Rick Butler. Those are the only contacts I can think of at the moment but if anything else springs to mind I'll add it later.
Regards
Alex

Sorry - I missed a couple of questions ... the Minister for Health is Lara Giddings, we don't have, so far as I know, a Minister for Employment or one for Indigenous Affairs, and Bob Brown's office is at 1, Franklin Square, Hobart TAS 7000. That's about the best I can think of.
Regards
Alex

Alex
Thanks. Some of that is useful tar. Some I knew. etc.
Sorry but I thought you were the other lot playing silly games again
They start threads in different names- post for a while-waiste our time then bolt.
I would ,like to keep in contact but thats completly up to you.
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Thanks for helping the animals!