ALEX 0814,
HOW INDERPENDANT IS THE RSPCA FROM THE GOVERNMENT?

I would like to add Alex that I firmly believe that unless your friends are prepaired to comprimise for the Animals sake Cruelty and Live Animal Exports is going to get much worse and tripple again in numbers.
It already has!
The difference between your friends and mine is that we KNOW the only way to improve conditions for animals is to get involved in a BIG way with the Industry.
Do you have any idea of the type of people involved world wide in the meat industry?
They are some of the biggest rouges and rough tuff guys who dont mind playing it dirty. Real dirty.

Your people are no match for these scum bags despite the many wonderful efforts made by thousands of Australians and others world wide.
While you write letters to Ministers instead of getting involved in the trade you wont get far.
The demand for meat world wide is growing.
What you need to do is remember it will ALWAYS BE DRIVEN BY THE INDUSTRY AND THE DEMAND.

You need hungry tough smart operators to help establish many abattoirs close to the place of origen to cut transport. Get involved and work 'with them" to cut the stress in plants.
Then look to the Neverlands to check out their gas plants.

Help the new operators and take a percentage to continue your work.
There are HEAPS of people world wide VERY interested in free range pork , poultry and beef veggie farms.
Drive the industry and forget the Government and RSPCA.

There is much interest in establishing fast food veggie chains which can be grown on your own farms.
People from overseas NEED to "know" they have good contacts here in Australia to establish these outlets.
I urge your friends to seriously consider they options while we still have a chance to put the big boys on their arse.

SHAME ON JOHN HOWARD - AND RUDD "Speaking of feeding the chooks."

TIME FOR AN INDERPENDANT GOVERNMENT

Ooops!

Must be something I said.

Thats what I mean about standing up for the rights of Animals.
You wont get anywhere by lying down.
Or perhaps I have stood on the ' Political toes ' of Animal Welfare'!

Regarless getting back to Tassi and Roberts we are looking for a plant to buy in Tassi to compete on the open market.

Also I dont see any reason not to share with you we have been contacted by Muslim Leaders who are going to support the PRE STUNNING of All Animals and try to install gas into all Aussie plants.
We would not have achieved this if we had "gone to water".

If you believe in somthing you "must stand up and fight"! for it.

I cant think of anything thats worth fighting for more than a fair go for our animals.

Remember what I said- There are some rough tough players world wide in this Industry. Including the Government which big cheque books and new laws. DIDDIMS!



WE would appreciate local knowledge from you and we would like to visit with a view of a healthy outlook to give Tassi Farmers a better price and give Roberts[ and his Merry Fronts and friends the arse.

I used to thank Elders- The largest live Animal Exporter along with the AWB for sponsering this forum.

However they seem to have dissapeared off the site.

Thank You Alex for opening this thread. I know you work hard.

If you want to stop live Animal Exports you must face the fact that we have to slaughter in Tassi!

We cant have it both ways.

We cant tell the world not to eat meat.

You Alex CAN help by helping us set up Tassi AND we need good people like you to recomemd where the shade goes any other improvements to help the animals and you WILL! be welcome at plants to check the Animals.
I hope we hear from you.
Tassi have done some great work.
You have
The Animals thank You.
We thank you

Hi there
Sorry - I didn't realize that I had missed a posting. I don't have any particular local knowledge of the meat industry here, other than the fact that all slaughterhouses are currently working at full capacity. I reckon your best shot would be the meat workers union; they are the guys who know what is going on - or perhaps someone in government in Tasmania.
A0814

Alex-

Thanks Already have but we like to work with locals at grass roots to be sure the info is the best available.

Animal Welfare groups and Animal minded people are required also to ensure all recomdations are followed to the T

If you find yourself available later or know anybody in Tassi who would like to assist with competing with our mate the live exporter our email address is on our web page under membership of OLO.

Can you tell us please how many intensive farms are in Tassi

All Animals.

Keep up the good work.!

That would be difficult to find out, because the Department of Primary Industries and Water website has not been updated for a couple of years. I do know of a cattle feedlot in the north at Epping Forest (owned by the Japanese, I believe), several pig farms and quite a few battery/meat chicken farms. One was infiltrated by animal advocates and the film shown on "Stateline", but when the RSPCA went to inspect it a couple of days later, it was clear that it had been "tipped off" - and they claimed to have found "no welfare problems". It is very difficult to get information from the Department and the RSPCA. There is no planned live export shipment from Devonport next year either but that is apparently because of a shortage of sheep. Elders and Roberts are both advertising for animals to be sent for export to Victoria, cattle at present. The mortality report on the last shipment makes interesting reading; it is quite clear about Tasmanian sheep not being suitable for export because they cannot cope with the climatic extremes they have to face. Ir seems reasonable to assume that Tasmanian cattle are the same. On the "Maysora" shipment which has been in the news, it seems that they sent Bos Taurus cattle from Victoria who should not have been sent at that time of the year.
A0814

Alex0814,

Sorry I didn’t see your reply before. The tag on your thread does not show when a new comment goes up. Perhaps you could inform OLO.
The information is invaluable. Thank You - because this is “exactly what we need” Australia wide- local Info.

Alex0814, said-

Elders and Roberts are both advertising for animals to be sent for export to Victoria, cattle at present.

PALE replies.
Umm are they now. Can you tell us where and how- in which papers and internet sources etc please?

Alex0814, said-

The mortality report on the last shipment makes interesting reading; it is quite clear about Tasmanian sheep not being suitable for .

PALE Replies-
Could you post that report for us please?
Lets face it No Animal should be put on these death ships what so ever. Animals are land creatures and Australia is the last place on earth they should be sent from. Its insane and utter barbaric treatment of Australian Creatures. Not to mention our jobs and this countries future!

Alex0814, said-

but when the RSPCA went to inspect it a couple of days later, it was clear that it had been "tipped off" - and they claimed to have found "no welfare problems"
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Pale Replies-

Well Golly- gee Wiz

I wonder how that happened? But wait- Could it be a leak?

Ah yes but of course an unfortunate leak. Hey you don’t reckon it might have something to do with that written [undisputed] letter given to Kate do You?

This one-

, however RSPCA Australia “does receive funding from the government’ “to employ inspectors and run the inspectorate service.”

I hope this has been of some help to you.

Regards

Paul Wyld
Animal Welfare Officer

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ALEX0418said

". It is very difficult to get information from the Department and the RSPCA.

PALEREPLIES
Its shouldn’t be.

RSPCA are “supposed to be” a public organization? ? ?

CONCLUSHION-

The Intensive Farming Industry and Live Animal Exports will “always! be driven by the Industry.”

Put “ALL” our efforts “THERE ““forget RSPCA!” .