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Should Covid vaccinations be continued?

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A better approach just might be to develop a cocktail of antiviral drugs, just as we have had to do for HIV, & treat the symptoms, as a natural immunity develops, if it is going to.

Should be a lot cheaper, & a damn sight more effective.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 1:13:47 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

From the NY Times.

"Ivermectin
For decades, ivermectin has served as a potent drug to treat parasitic worms. Doctors use it against river blindness and other diseases, while veterinarians give dogs a different formulation to prevent heartworm. Studies on cells have suggested ivermectin might also kill viruses. But scientists have yet to find strong evidence in animal studies or human trials that it can treat viral diseases. As a result,ivermectin is not approved to use as an antiviral.

Last April, Australian researchers reported that the drug blocked coronaviruses in cell cultures. But they used a dosage that was so high it might have dangerous side effects in people. The F.D.A. immediately issued a warning against taking pet medications that contain ivermectin. “These animal drugs can cause serious harm in people,” the agency warned. On March 5, 2021, the F.D.A. issued another warning not to use ivermectin to treat or prevent Covid-19. The European Medicines Agency released a similar warning later that month.

Nevertheless, ivermectin gained widespread popularity as a supposed treatment for Covid-19. In the United States, the Senate held a committee hearing in December where a doctor extolled ivermectin as a “effectively a ‘miracle drug’ against Covid-19.” But those claims were not backed up by clear results from large, randomized clinical trials.

A number of small clinical trials have been carried out to test ivermectin against Covid-19. In July 2021, a team of researchers reviewed the studies conducted up until then. “We found no evidence to support the use of ivermectin for treating or preventing COVID-19 infection, but the evidence base is limited,” they concluded. One high-profile study that seemed to show ivermectin was highly effective was removed from a preprint website because of concerns about serious flaws in the research.

A number of large-scale randomized clinical trials are underway that may provide a clearer picture. In August, the National Institutes of Health began testing the drug on people 30 years old or older who test positive for Covid-19 within the previous ten days and have at least two symptoms for a week or less. Shortly before that study launched, another trial on 1500 patients found no benefit from ivermectin."

Go get a vaccine ya mug.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 6:37:11 PM
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Here's Craig Kelly doing his block about the vaccines in an empty parliament.
- It's a 'Must Watch' - goes for 2mins.
http://twitter.com/wong_do_mein888/status/1432328247757336581
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 7:08:08 PM
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Someone shared a video with me of a guy accessing the following database.
http://apps.tga.gov.au/PROD/DAEN/daen-entry.aspx

DAEN is the Therapeutic Goods Administration's 'Database of Adverse Event Notifications' - for medicines.

If you go to the above page and type in 'Covid' in the 'Select Medicines' section, you get this:

COMIRNATY COVID-19 vaccine (active ingredients: BNT162b2 (mRNA))
COVID-19 Vaccine (TNS) (active ingredients: COVID-19 Vaccine (Type not specified))
COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca (active ingredients: ChAdOx1-S (Viral vector))
Spikevax COVID-19 vaccine (active ingredients: Elasomeran (mRNA))

Now I saw a video which showed a huge number of adverse reactions, but I haven't been able to access the data on the website to verify it.
You might have to change the 'From' date range to Jan 1 2021.

If anyone has any success accessing this data please share what you find.
The website doesn't seem to be working properly
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 7:20:44 PM
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NY Times, lefty hymn book.

Only a total dill would pay any attention to anything they print, except to take it as very far from the truth.

Still singing in tune I see SR.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 9:14:41 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

This is where you should have provided any contrary evidence. For instance an independent, randomly selected, peer reviewed study would be good.

This is a link to the Australian one discussed in the article.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

The Together trail of 1500 patients returned this result:

"The trial originally tested the results from a single Ivermectin dose in January this year, but was later changed to involve one daily dose for three days of 400 micrograms of the drug for every kilogram (about 2.2 pounds) of the patients’ weight, up to 90 kilograms.

Half the subjects received a placebo tablet. No clinical results were detected at either dosage, Mills said."

http://rethinkingclinicaltrials.org/news/august-6-2021-early-treatment-of-covid-19-with-repurposed-therapies-the-together-adaptive-platform-trial-edward-mills-phd-frcp/

Do you have a single reputable study to back up the crap you are presenting here?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 9:49:33 PM
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