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The Forum > General Discussion > The Nazis Next Door: Part One. 60 Minutes - channel 9, - 8.30pm 15/08/2021.

The Nazis Next Door: Part One. 60 Minutes - channel 9, - 8.30pm 15/08/2021.

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Is a pair of crossed swords Scottish or Arabic and what does each meam? One is lain down the other displayed upright.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 21 August 2021 3:00:33 PM
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Foxy,
When you see the Celtic Crosses displayed by right wing racist extremists you’ll understand what the.cross stands for and will undoubtedly wish, being consistent to ban it.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 21 August 2021 3:07:53 PM
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Josephus,

Two crossed swords are symbols used in heraldry
and as a symbol of a battle. 2 crossed swords pointing
upwards means ready to fight.
Pointing down means the fight is over.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 21 August 2021 3:11:57 PM
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Is Mise,

I love the mythology associated with the Celtic Cross
and I have several pieces of jewelry with the Celtic
Cross. I've also done several paintings and drawings.
And given them away as gifts.

Lithuania was the last place in Europe to adopt
Christianity. Before 1387 when the Grand Duchy of Lithuania
was finally baptised into Roman Catholicism its people
were pagans. The central characteristic of their religion
was the veneration of the forces of nature held to be
sacred, personified in the form of various deities.

You see:

I come from a tribe
of nature worshippers
Pantheists, believers in faeries
forst sprites, and wood nymphs
who heard devils in their windmills,
met them in the woods, cloven-hoofed
and dapper gentlemen of the night
who named the god of thunder
who praised and glorified bread
dark rye waving
waist-high out of earth
and held it sacred, who spent afternoons
mushrooming in forests
of pine, fir, and birch
who transferred Jesus
from his wooden cross
transformed Him
into a wood-carved, worrying peasant
raised Him on a wooden pole above the crossroads
where He sat with infinite patience
in rain and snow, wooden legs apart
wooden elbows on wooden knees
wooden chin in wooden hand
worrying and sorrowing for the world ...
These people who named their sons and daughters
after amber, rue, dawn, storm
and the only people I know who have a diminutive
form for God Himself - Dievulis, "God - my -little-buddy."

No wonder I catch myself speaking
to trees, flowers - these eucalyptus, so far
from Eastern Europe - or that I bend down to the earth
gather pebbles, acorns, leaves, boles, bring
them home, enshrine them on mantlepieces
or above porcelain fixtures, any wonder
I grow nervous in rooms
and must step outside and touch a tree
or sink my toes in dirt, watch the birds fly.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 21 August 2021 3:47:47 PM
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It was the gentile Roman Constantine who first introduced the Roman cross into Christianity, which he felt had sacred power and unfortunately has been adorned with power ever since. However it is not the cross that saves, but the death of a righteous man who gave his life in seeking forgivness. It is the character of the person of Jesus and not two peices of wood used by Roman Soldiers. Constantine used this symbol in his armies and it has been used ever since by those who call themselves Christians who believe it holds power.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 21 August 2021 7:54:52 PM
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I still haven't made my mind up on this, but I tend to think the answer is no, that I don't support them being labelled a terror group or having property seizure or anything else;

- At least until you pull the social engineering back to an equitable level.

If you're going to have such laws as diversity quotas, which discriminate against white people, and often use the term 'white male' is a disparaging sense then I won't support persecuting them.

I won't support screwing white people over within the guises of 'democracy', and then conducting other forms of lawfare and punishment against them when the government itself created unfair laws, and themselves stokes the flames of their discontent.

If they're making pubic threats of violence, then they should be charged for these offenses like anyone else if they are, but their free speech should also be respected.
You may not agree with their opinions on things, but are they not entitled to them?

Also the nine news article specifically features Jewish opinions.
- And an attempt to control the speech of Australians because of what happened to them as Jews.

I don't have a problem with white people taking a position of white pride, it's no different than Black Pride in principle
Black lives Matters (But all Lives matter is not allowed);
I just wish they didn't have to align themselves with a NAZI ideology to feel proud about white mans achievements, I think that's sad.

And for the record, I never really cared about race, (I've got a tiny little bit of indigenous in me too) but the polarized environment forces me to stand up for what's right.

If they don't make the laws that punish white people for being white equal, then I'm not supporting their claims that these people be labelled terrorists.

As a side note, I'm not sure that hating someone or something should instantly be be considered a crime in and of itself anyway?
They may be valid reasons.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 21 August 2021 7:56:47 PM
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