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Is Britain A Mongrel Nation?
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Posted by thinkabit, Monday, 2 August 2021 10:17:21 PM
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The winjin Pom!
I recall a British couple we become close friends with, they were our neighbours, she was a pommy snob, but he was a good bloke, having been an officer in the Royal Air Force. We had them over for dinner, roast beef. Talking about food, she said; "Australian beef is not like the good English beef, its a light colour, not the nice dark shade of good English beef, oh! no its not as good as ours". Her husband John quickly came back with; "Helen, that English beef, it was Australian beef, and its only a dark colour because it had been frozen for six months getting there, and you paid the earth for it". There children had migrated before them and they had only been here a couple of years. Helen rubbished Australia, but John loved the place, once saying to his wife in front of us; "You certainly give voice to the winging Pom, back home, when did you ever have a pineapple like you do here." John loved pineapple, had it in the Far East during his air force days, but it was too expensive, or not available back home, but plentiful in Australia. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 7:10:55 AM
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Is Britain A Mongrel Nation?
Well, their demographic is now not what it was when it was great ! Australia's heading down the same track but thanks to COVID-19 there might still be a chance to reverse that trend ! Posted by individual, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 9:07:19 AM
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Hi Thinkabit,
Thank You for the information and the videos. I shall definitely look into all of it. I'm learning so much from this discussion. I'd forgotten so much that I'd learned in the past. But it's all slowly coming back now. Hi Paul, Interesting to know where the term - "whinging Poms" comes from? Then there's the "ten pound poms," as well. individual, We can only trust that with time we shall find our own place in the world - and that it will be as special as we are meant to be after all look at all the obstacles that we've overcome to date - and we're still admired all over the world and people want to come and settle here. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 9:41:00 AM
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While Australia is pissing itself and cowering under Covid-19, Britain is getting on with life, opening borders and businesses. Britain has also sailed an aircraft carrier into the South China Sea, right up to the 12 mile limit, showing the Communists its grit, while Australia just pisses itself and cowers over that as well, and is a laughing stock over its lack of expertise on Covid, defence, and its useless Prime Minister In-Hiding.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 9:51:46 AM
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Back to the topic:
The modern day British are not a single race but a hotchpotch of ethnic groups that have settled within those shores down the centuries. However their diversity is much more complex it seems: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/06/britains-diversity-much-more-complex-it-seems Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 12:03:30 PM
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The Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians are early Germanic people. So yes they are basically tribes of the same stock and they had very similar cultures, eg: they had common/or closely related languages, same or similar gods/myths, etc. Although they did fight among each along these tribal lines. In the last stages of the Eastern Rome Empire, Rome cared less and less about the Romano-British and eventually the army abandoned what is now England. During this time and after, many from these germanic tribes raided/invaded/migrated* there. (The endings of place names can suggest that they were overrun/or/founded by some of these people. Eg: names that end in "-ham" like in Nottingham and "-wich" like in Norwich, are mostly anglo-saxon in origin.)
The term Danes covers those historic peoples who lived about where Denmark currently is and down through history to those who are nationals of the modern country of Denmark. So it starts with some of the early Germanic mentioned above and extends to include later peoples (eg: those who identified as Danish while within other political groupings such as The Kalmar Union or Denmark-Norway Union) to the current day. So when people use the term Danes you need context to know who they actually mean- eg. the early germanic danes or elsewise.
The Normans are a mix resulting from the raid/settling/invasion by Norse Vikings (as I understand it the name Norman actually comes from this - North Man) and the native Franks.
A few years ago I watched a series of videos on this channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/TenMinuteHistory that did a really good job of explaining British History and I recommend it if you want to know more about English history. They are short (approx 10min) videos that are fast paced but easily digestible.
*Actually, earlier on some from these tribes had been invited there by the Romano-British to fight as mercenaries against raiding Picts (from where Scotland is now) and the Gaels (where Ireland is now).