As I said at the end of my first "opinion"...we're stuffed ! How much of our infrastructure, strategic assets and mines is actually owned (directly & indirectly) by Chinese & CCP interests? Sorry I can't answer that one accurately, but can only comment on what I have been directly involved with and that worries me. Again the issue of Indonesia "being offended" if Australia purchases weapons, systems, aircraft and other hardware, then ups the ante by buying Russian hardware to match ours. I sat many years ago, as a 9 yr old, alongside my Dad, listening to his old Chief Petty Officers warn us about Indonesia way back then. These 'Old Salts' were in many cases, veterans of WW2/Korea & at the time Vietnam. It seems we haven't taken heed of those history lessons when the Japanese were sending geologists, civil engineers and hydrographers to gather information about Australia in the mid/late 1930's. The Chinese today, need only disconnect us by a denial of service and our vacillating governments both Labor & Liberal will roll over, peeing themselves like dogs. It is unlikely, until the event of an actual - clear and present Chinese danger in our face, that conscription or National Service will be considered by any Australian government.

Thanks for all the information on the importance of the strategic capabilities of Nuclear Ballistic Subs for Australia. The unmanned underwater vehicle concept is interesting as are the telemetry issues. Australia being a uranium producer has some influence- not sure how this interacts with the NNPT/ BMTT- there are some rules for transferring nuclear weapons technology across borders- also some countries regularly bend NNPT/ BMTT. We are worrying about an arms race but this is already happening without us- but it's in our interest to avoid conflict with Indonesia- perhaps Darwin is the wrong location for a base.

Australia won't get into a conflict with China. The Unions with the backing of WPH&S will simply offer it for sale to China, just look at the deals over the past two decades and, that happened without conflict !

individual,

You might be right about the takeover without combat.

According to deserter Chen Yonglin, the CCP made a FORMAL decision to CONTROL Australia through trade, investment, political donations, and a “place of favour at the high table of the new empire”. We were “bought and beguiled” to the brink of political and economic submission.

Australia has only recently (and reluctantly) roused itself from the narcotic stupor, induced by addictively large amounts of Chinese Communist money. It might be too late. It might still happen, given our gutless politicians, who would be the ones at the table.

Hi individual

It was you talking about National Service

See your:

"There's no point in any of that if we can't even get the young to do a National Service in the first place...

Posted by individual, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 6:49:00 AM"

Hi Albie Manton in Darwin

Yes China is the main threat - to Aus and the whole Indo-Pacific region.

See my latest article http://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2021/07/china-spits-dummy-hms-queen-elizabeth.html

Pete