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French Submarines Best for Australia

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The are constant jibes against the regionally superior submarines France is building for Australia.

The tax paying public, clickbait journos and Canberra thinktank "Experts" know too little, too early.

The future is a big gig - more dynamic than meets one eye.
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 11:55:28 PM
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What is the point of this post?
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 22 July 2021 9:17:29 AM
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Do you not know ttbn

That the only way for Australia to move up to nuclear subs (SSNs) in the quickest possible time (the 2040s) is to make down payments to the French via the conventional sub scheme.

This is what Australia is doing.

No one else will offer Australia SSNs.

"Why master?" you may well ask?
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 22 July 2021 12:04:03 PM
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Well Pete. Nothing in your 3 line post said that. But, who told you that there was any likelihood of a shift to nuclear subs and, if there was, why wouldn't they buy them now instead of farting around having nuclear subs converted to diesel, and waiting for them until 2050 or some such ridiculous time?
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 22 July 2021 1:16:42 PM
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TTBN at last someone has come out for a good reason to buy French!
The reason is that we will be so frightened of China that we will either have to surrender and leave our houses to the the Chinese population or go nuclear.
My bet is the current leadership would sell their own children on the streets of St Kilda to save their own skins so surrender it is.
Posted by JBowyer, Thursday, 22 July 2021 1:52:14 PM
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Well said JBowyer

And as for you ttbn.

The expert, Gregor Ferguson, writing at ASPI Strategist, 22 July 2021 points out how hard it would be for Aus to currently buy nuclear subs. See http://www.aspistrategist.org.au/buying-military-hardware-from-the-us-wish-list-or-shopping-list/
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A superior conventional sub bought from France's Naval Group is the only way for Australia to go, CURRENTLY.

Australian interests are tied up Very significantly with the fact that only France builds a mix of Western Conventional AND Nuclear subs.

If Australia wants to buy a nuclear sub the US and UK won't sell us one - the US's and UK's bomb grade HEU reactor situations I'll explain later.

Regards

Pete
http://gentleseas.blogspot.com/
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 22 July 2021 2:39:54 PM
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