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Reconciliation Week - will reconciliation in Australia ever happen?

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Dear Bazz,

All they're asking is to have a say in the
making of laws that affect them personally.
They're not asking for special legislation -
just a "voice," to be heard. The government
decides.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 31 May 2021 2:00:31 PM
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Foxy, do they need to ask for something that is not available now ?
Why is racial legislation necessary ?
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 31 May 2021 2:47:38 PM
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Dear Bazz,

To protect people against discrimination.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 31 May 2021 2:58:39 PM
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Section 51(xxvi) of the constitution is the part that grants the Federal Government the power to make "'Special laws' for people of any race."

(Apparently in the fantasy-world of Foxyistan it is believed there is also a bit written in the margins in invisible ink that says this only applies to discriminatory legislation against aboriginals).

So ponder this: the race powers were used to validate the Native Title Act. The government passing laws that gave special rights to one racial group was only possible because of Section 51(xxvi). But it seems those who are most interested in displaying their imagined virtue want that section rescinded. I wonder if they care that that would invalidate the Native Title Act or is virtue signalling more important? I wonder how Foxy reconciles that with her belief that the constitution is racist against aboriginals?

Additionally Section 51(xxvi)was used by Hawke to allow him to pass laws allowing Chinese students to stay in Australia following the Tienanmen Square massacre. I wonder how Foxy reconciles that with her belief that the section only applies to aboriginals?

Logic takes a holiday.

A bit more for the virtue signallers to ponder. High Court justice Michael Kirby held "that the race power did not permit the enactment of laws to the detriment of the people of any race." High Court Justice Gaudron said that "it was difficult to conceive of circumstances in which a law to the disadvantage of a racial minority would be valid."

Foxy thinks she sounds like a broken record. More like a cracked record.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 31 May 2021 3:27:59 PM
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Most Australians don't give a tinker's curse about aboriginal activists or, at best, they don't think any more a 4% minority than they do about any other minority. All this reconciliation nonsense is just another example of how out of touch the political class is with the average citizen.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 31 May 2021 3:48:15 PM
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People like Paul and Nathan and even clueless Foxy, have this rather jaundiced view of the issue. To their way of thinking, they are completely in favour of reconciliation even though they have no idea what it is. And since they have the best interests of aboriginals at heart, anyone who doesn't buy their pro-reconciliation rhetoric must be anti-aboriginal. Its really that simple to these people. Agree with me or be proven a racist.

But there's other ways of viewing the aboriginal issue that doesn't require dribbling adherence to their Kumbaya worldview.

Take the example of rampant male violence in aboriginal communities. To address that issue we need to take some hard lessons and some hard measures against the perpetrators of the rampant violence against aboriginal women. But the 'reconciliation' adherents aren't interested in that because it requires confronting an unwanted fact about current and past aboriginal 'culture'. Solving that problem would immeasurably improve life for many aboriginal women, not to mention their kids.

However its a bridge too far for the Kumbaya crowd. How can you show your imagined virtue if you're required to face hard facts. Best avoid them.

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"All they're asking is to have a say in the making of laws that affect them personally.They're not asking for special legislation - just a "voice," to be heard."

You mean like in a democracy?
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 31 May 2021 3:52:33 PM
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