" there's a lack of comprehension
about anything to do with the Indigenous people."

That's very true....but hang around and your comprehension might improve.

mhaze,

Why all the vitriol?

Instead of focusing on the pro's and con's of reconciliation, you seem obsessed in attacking others on this topic. I see no value in doing so and will not be. I can only see you as a person not interested in reconciliation. That is your choice if you so want that and if the case, why not just say so?

In terms of Reconciliation, I know what it is. I go by dictionary definitions.

Definition of reconciliation
1: the action of reconciling: the state of being reconciled

and

Definition of reconcile

1a: to restore to friendship or harmony
reconciled the factions

b: SETTLE, RESOLVE
reconcile differences

2: to make consistent or congruous
reconcile an ideal with reality

3: to cause to submit to or accept something unpleasant
was reconciled to hardship

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reconciliation
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reconciled

Dictionary definitions though don't always provide strategic directions and outcomes that will lead you to real change, although they are a good starting point in terms of where to begin.

So in that regard, real activity like changing the date and bridging the gap will see lives improve and should be taken on board as a result. What comes from that I cannot say, but reconciliation is a complex issue, more than I, Paul or Foxy can put on this page and reconciliation will take time.

NAthanJ,

My involvement in this thread was simply to point out that Foxy's claims about the racist constitution was factually wrong. Its unsurprising that she tried to hide from that (she always does) but somewhat eyebrow raising that others sat ideally by and let the lie stand.

Part of the problem with the entire aboriginal project has been that it has been mired with lies. A process that is more concerned about virtue signalling than with evidence is doomed to fail. Thinking that people living in shanty towns in the middle of the never-never give a jot about the date of Australia Day is just wishful thinking.

Its not a question of not being interested in Reconciliation. The fact is that its never been defined and therefore its impossible to be honestly pro or anti. That you are all in yet can't define what it means or even what it'll look like when we are 'reconciled' says it all.

In the end I feel that its just a wishy-washy term that puts a happy face on very real claims on the public purse.

So tell me Nathan...I've mentioned the issue of rampant aboriginal domestic violence. Do you see addressing that as part of 'reconciliation'? Do you think the women and kids who would benefit from having it addressed would feel more well-disposed to a society that rescued them from that millennium old scourge? IF not why not? And if so then why isn't it currently seen as part of the 'reconciliation' project. Is it that nothing about 'reconciliation' can involve asking anything of the aboriginals?

While we are in the mode of definitions;
What is the definition of an indigenous person ?

It appears that the left whingers are once again confusing reconciliation with capitulation.

Shadow Minister,

Reconciliation is simply about righting wrongs.
We know that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander
people are legally excluded in the Australian
Constitution the nation's founding legal document
in that their prior existence and survival on
this land for tens of thousands of years is not
acknowledged.

We know that this also resulted in historic
social exclusion and economic disadvantage.

And you claim that righting this wrong is
capitulation?

Seriously?