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Reconciliation Week - will reconciliation in Australia ever happen?

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"but the question for many is will it ever happen?"

It depends.

When someone decides what I need to be reconciled to or about, then I'll be able to work out if it'll ever happen.

But at the moment it seems that we simply have to be reconciled to constantly hearing the usual whingers whinge.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 28 May 2021 11:50:41 AM
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We've been told that Indigenous people in
Australia want self-determination within the
existing nation. This would require recognition
by the government of their distinct cultures
and forms of social organisation, governance
and decision making.

A treaty would improve the governments obligations
that they would have to comply with new treaty laws
and rights. The Uluru Statement from the heart -
outlined a voice to parliament. It did not ask
for much. However, it did not happen. Other
countries have treaties with their Indigenous
people. Australia does not.

I guess few of us can imagine what it would be like
to be discriminated against because of colour or race.
None of us know how we'd feel if we were watched
while in shops or treated differently on public
transport. Or in the case of Kelly Briggs from Moree
who got tired of being rejected as a tenant for being
"too dark" that she asked a white friend to rent the
house she now lives in after six months of applying
as an Aboriginal woman and getting nowhere.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 28 May 2021 12:18:56 PM
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"Simply not true.
mhaze,
How so ?"

In the sense that what Foxy said was, predictably, utterly wrong.
The Australian Constitution doesn't mention aboriginals in any way. Not since the 1967 referendum.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 28 May 2021 12:25:15 PM
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If there is to be reconciliation in Australia, people must be open to the idea in the first place.

As mentioned before history is not there for people to like or dislike, it is there for people to learn from, so these terrible things that occurred in terms of our history do not happen again.

It is important to realise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people have been through many things, good bad and indifferent. One cannot expect someone to let go of or forget something, let's say if they were part of the stolen generation. The impacts are long lasting and will not simply go away.

In terms of change though there are ways to start.

Changing the date. Australia Day has been a discussion for a long time and change here may help out. Whilst seen by some as a token move, the idea of celebrating a day where colonials took over could be seen as hard to justify and continue.

Constitution reform may also be a good thing to consider. There is an excellent article on this issue.

https://theconversation.com/indigenous-recognition-in-our-constitution-matters-and-will-need-greater-political-will-to-achieve-90296/

Bridging the gap is also important. There is a 10-year gap in the average life expectancy between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians. Health and education are major contributors to this gap.

Finally people need to be willing to adopt change. Cheap and nasty comments will go nowhere and are signs of those not willing to work with others for positive outcomes. There are reasons for doing that, but I would encourage people to think of the bigger picture.
Posted by NathanJ, Friday, 28 May 2021 1:40:18 PM
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mhaze,

The following link explains why Australia as a nation
needs to recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander
people in the Constiution.

And it explains also when the discriminatory provisions
in the Constiution have been used.

http://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/constitutional-reform-faqs-why-reform-constitution-needed#reform1
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 28 May 2021 1:52:25 PM
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Foxy,

You claimed ""The Constitution already treats our Indigenous Australians differently in so far as it allows laws to be passed for and about Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, cultures and heritage. because they are Indigenous. "

That is wrong. Show me where, in the constitution (http://australianpolitics.com/constitution/text/complete) it says anything even remotely like what you claimed. For that matter, show me where it even uses the word 'aboriginal' or 'indigenous'.

Hint: it doesn't.

I know you are genetically incapable of admitting you got it wrong....but you got it wrong.

Its just one of those things the luvvies believe because they've been told it so often that they think it must be true.

The fact is that the constitution doesn't discriminate against the aboriginals or any other particular race in any form. It just doesn't
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 28 May 2021 2:10:48 PM
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