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Reconciliation Week - will reconciliation in Australia ever happen?

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Dear Paul,

Thanks for the link.

It says that every year it gets worse and that
the stats are even higher than reported.

Truly tragic.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 29 May 2021 6:54:40 PM
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Hi FOXY...

Of course, I've been retired for a while now. Still, in my experience, the two most destructive elements for our indigenous people are alcohol & drugs, usually supplied by a few white lowlife's who prey on them as soon as they receive their fortnightly government allowance.

And for the younger blacks, as well as booze and dope, they need to contend with boredom, hopelessness, social isolation, and thoughts of suicide.
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 29 May 2021 10:27:34 PM
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Foxy, I didn't say they would die out, they will merge with the rest
of us and it will not be a problem. No doubt there would be a few who
would pretend they are aboriginal, even if they only 1/16 or 1/32 of
aboriginal DNA, just to rip the system off.
Their DNA will eventually spread through us all.
After all we all have some Neanderthal blood, so perhaps I can make
a claim on the European Community because their ancestors forced
my people into obscurity.

OK Paul there is an opportunity for you to call me something or other.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 29 May 2021 11:21:08 PM
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Dear O Sung Wu,

The more research that I do into the problems of
our Indigenous problems - the more depressing it
gets.

Dear Bazz,

The only way that things can improve is if we
recognise our Indigenous people's history and
allow them self determination as they ask.
It's no a big ask - and we should in Modern
Australia be mature enough to do it.
All that's necessary is for a government to
try . Then perhaps as you point out - things
will change.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 30 May 2021 8:38:35 AM
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G'day o sung wu,

"With respect, you're not entirely right. There are special legal procedures in place for indigenous folk when charged with a criminal offence"

That rather misses the point. I wasn't talking about the general legal status vis a vis those who claim aboriginality. I was addressing the utterly erroneous claims of Foxy that the constitution discriminates against those who claim indigenous status. I invited her, and anyone else for that matter, to show where the constitution does that. Foxy, being incapable of ever admitting error (even one so obvious as this) moved with alacrity to change the subject with more rubbish about things she doesn't understand like the Hindmarsh Island dispute.

The constitution is not racist. But some feel that erroneously claiming otherwise, it makes them seem more morally virtuous. And in a way, they're right - but only in their own mind.

Reconciliation is another of those virtue signalling issues. People like to preen themselves on being pro-reconciliation. But they don't even know what it means or how to achieve it or how we'll know when we get there. Change the date of Australia Day? OK how does that make things better for the truly disadvantaged natives, as opposed to the rent-seeking urban ABBAriginals.

As I write, there's an ad on TV urging action on domestic violence. As usual the violence is being perpetrated by a white man. But we know that aboriginal women are 40 times more likely to suffer domestic violence than white women. Want to do something to improve their lot? Well good. But that never gets a look in because it'd be 'racist' or something. Besides violent aboriginal male misogyny has been part of their 'culture' for 40000 years and changing that would be too hard. Its way easier to display virtue by complaining about racism in the constitution even though it doesn't exist.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 30 May 2021 9:39:20 AM
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Once again please read the following link as to why
constitutional reform is needed. As well as when have the
discriminatory provisions in the Constitution been
used.

http://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/constitutional-reform-faqs-why-reform-constitution-needed#reform1

I can supply information, but I can't be blamed for someone's
lack of understanding.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 30 May 2021 1:05:00 PM
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